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Full Tilt Poker $500/$1000 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Brian Hastings (SB): $100500.00
world1969 (BB): $45504.50
Gus Hansen (CO): $57503.00
Richard Ashby (BTN): $95747.50

Pre Flop: ($1500.00)
Gus Hansen raises to $3000, 2 folds, world1969 raises to $12000, Gus Hansen requests TIME, Gus Hansen calls $9000

Flop: ($24500.00) T

(2 players)
world1969 bets $33504.50 all in, Gus Hansen calls $33504.50

Turn: ($91509.00) 8

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($91509.00) J

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $91509.00
world1969 shows A

(a pair of Eights)
Gus Hansen shows T

(two pair, Tens and Eights)
Gus Hansen wins $91507.00
(Rake: $2.00)

01-14-2010 , 07:58 PM

#502

Jamie Platinum

Moonwalking

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 7,198

Brian Hastings: its the nl round
Brian Hastings: gg everyone
Brian Hastings: sit out now
Gus Hansen: Did I hear another stupid comment from the guy who always sits down with the deepstack right behind me - lol -
Brian Hastings: hey gus im at an open table
Brian Hastings: ur welcome to sit deep onmy left
Gus Hansen: good point Brian - I appologize my previous statement

01-14-2010 , 08:01 PM

#503

Jamie Platinum

Moonwalking

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 7,198

Full Tilt Poker $500/$1000 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

EazyPeazy (CO): $96349.00
La Key U (BTN): $29039.00
Gus Hansen (SB): $25384.50
world1969 (BB): $39197.00
Richard Ashby (UTG): $20000.00
Brian Hastings (MP): $119592.50

Pre Flop: ($1500.00)
4 folds, Gus Hansen calls $500, world1969 raises to $3000, Gus Hansen calls $2000

Flop: ($6000.00) T

(2 players)
Gus Hansen checks, world1969 checks

Turn: ($6000.00) 4

(2 players)
Gus Hansen checks, world1969 bets $3000, Gus Hansen raises to $15000, world1969 raises to $36197 all in, Gus Hansen calls $7384.50 all in

River: ($50769.00) A

(2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $50769.00
Gus Hansen shows T

(three of a kind, Tens)
world1969 shows Q

(a straight, Five high)
world1969 wins $50766.00
(Rake: $3.00)

01-14-2010 , 08:02 PM

#504

Jamie Platinum

Moonwalking

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 7,198

Full Tilt Poker $500/$1000 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

EazyPeazy (CO): $96349.00
La Key U (BTN): $29039.00
world1969 (SB): $64578.50
Richard Ashby (BB): $20000.00
Brian Hastings (UTG): $119592.50

Pre Flop: ($1500.00)
1 fold, EazyPeazy calls $1000, La Key U calls $1000, world1969 calls $500, Richard Ashby raises to $5000, 1 fold, La Key U calls $4000, world1969 calls $4000

Flop: ($16000.00) T

(3 players)
world1969 checks, Richard Ashby bets $15000 all in, La Key U folds, world1969 calls $15000

Turn: ($46000.00) A

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($46000.00) K

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $46000.00
world1969 shows J

(a full house, Aces full of Jacks)
Richard Ashby shows 8

(a pair of Aces)
world1969 wins $45997.00
(Rake: $3.00)

01-14-2010 , 08:14 PM

#505

DoctorFarha

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,596

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTHANG

k this guy is posting pictures of spoilers everywhere, i wouldnt click on them (however it goes to a youtube link?)

01-14-2010 , 08:16 PM

#506

moki

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,051

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorFarha

k this guy is posting pictures of spoilers everywhere, i wouldnt click on them (however it goes to a youtube link?)

Yeah it's a link of some non-funny poker video. Waterboat-ish

01-14-2010 , 11:27 PM

#507

SoLost

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,888

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spurious

i am low stakes grinder as well, but thatpfunk isnt.
thatpfunk is playing high stakes and the decisions made about brian townsend effect him way more than they do effuluck.

i just dont get why he wants to convince anyone that the decisions were unfair, when its really none of his business.

yeah i understand all this

Quote:

Originally Posted by effuluck

tissue?

Sorry, I'm not looking for your approval shill.

serious questions...do you and the other posters that are getting so upset have a cr's subscription?

Townsend broke the t&c's twice..FACT..if you care about the future of online poker you'd start to care about these little things that I shouldn't have an opinion about.

correct me if im wrong, but if ****s like you didn't bring so much attention to this in the first place the future ofpoker would be better off.

why do you care about the future of online poker anyway, you obviously make no money out of it

01-14-2010 , 11:40 PM

#508

2slick

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,592

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLost

yeah i understand all this

correct me if im wrong, but if ****s like you didn't bring so much attention to this in the first place the future ofpoker would be better off.

why do you care about the future of online poker anyway, you obviously make no money out of it

does it make you feel better to single out effluck in a subject that a multitude of people basically felt the same way?

what do you do to ensure a brighter future for poker?

so basically what youre saying is that the whole fiasco wasnt kosher and should be swept under the rug.

sounds like the only future you intend on brightening is the cr crew. what next? a petition for higher rake?

01-15-2010 , 02:31 AM

#509

SoLost

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,888

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2slick

meh i feel like you're missing my whole point, but you at least have an argument. i have to leave but i'll prob return to this thread in a few das and try explain more. i single out effuluck though because i think almost every post he makes is stupid

01-15-2010 , 03:13 AM

#510

effuluck

banned

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,145

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLost

excellent logic.

Last edited by effuluck; 01-15-2010 at 03:21 AM.

01-15-2010 , 09:39 AM

#511

chob18

adept

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 837

I don't mean to derail or anything but everyone is breaking the t&c just by posting hands on the forums or even discussing reads w/ other regs on IM, no one's ever bothered for a decade of online poker and suddenly it becomes a major offense. lol.

On the other hand isi is in his right if he asks for a refund but it's still ******ed.

As for the incomplete information argument, this is again right and it's the reason datamining should be forbidden, but I understand the CR guys exchanged reads rather than HH (esp hu where stats aren't that important since good players will change their style according to their opponent).

01-15-2010 , 09:47 AM

#512

Masq

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chob18

Please cite the rule you claim HH posters are violating.

01-15-2010 , 09:54 AM

#513

chob18

adept

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 837

well sharing HHs w/ other players, even if it's only one it's technically the same thing as data mining if players that play in the same games than you read this HH : they benefit from information thanks to reading a hand they didnt play

01-15-2010 , 09:57 AM

#514

BlaneH

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,831

Except that almost all hands posted on 2+2 don't disclose the names of players in the hand so no actual information is gained on opponent.

01-15-2010 , 10:20 AM

#515

effuluck

banned

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,145

And never will you see a post on 2+2 of a hh's that shows mucked cards on the river.

01-15-2010 , 10:26 AM

#516

uter

banned

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,417

Quote:

Originally Posted by effuluck

And never will you see a post on 2+2 of a hh's that shows mucked cards on the river.

see post #486 in this thread. it has the answers to all your questions.

01-15-2010 , 10:40 AM

#517

Sjors

banned

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 623

Quote:

Originally Posted by effuluck

And never will you see a post on 2+2 of a hh's that shows mucked cards on the river.

ahem..

Quote:

Absolute/UB Cereus Hold'em, $400.00 BB (2 handed) - Absolute/UB Cereus Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

WHYDOULOOSE (SB) ($155694.50)
XBLINK (BB) ($63782.68)

Preflop:
WHYDOULOOSE bets $1200, XBLINK raises to $2800, WHYDOULOOSE raises to $8500, XBLINK calls $5700

Flop: ($17000) K

(2 players)
XBLINK checks, WHYDOULOOSE checks

Turn: ($17000) 2

(2 players)
XBLINK bets $9600, WHYDOULOOSE raises to $19600, XBLINK calls $10000

River: ($56200) 7

(2 players)
XBLINK checks, WHYDOULOOSE raises to $127594.50 (All-In), XBLINK calls $35682.68 (All-In)

Total pot: $127565.36 | Rake: $1

Results:
WHYDOULOOSE had A

(three of a kind, Aces).
XBLINK didn't show [Kh 10h]
Outcome: WHYDOULOOSE won $127564.36

01-15-2010 , 11:13 AM

#518

Masq

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Something about absolute/UB that shows mucked cards to observers. Anyone can sit and watch that. The issue of contention is getting information that's not available to the public.

01-15-2010 , 11:29 AM

#519

chob18

adept

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 837

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaneH

Except that almost all hands posted on 2+2 don't disclose the names of players in the hand so no actual information is gained on opponent.

you don't seem to read the "regs" thread.

01-15-2010 , 12:06 PM

#520

effuluck

banned

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,145

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masq

Something about absolute/UB that shows mucked cards to observers. Anyone can sit and watch that. The issue of contention is getting information that's not available to the public.

This.

I didnt know ub showed that...that is beyond ******ed.

01-15-2010 , 12:09 PM

#521

David123

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where does oppenheim get his money from, he seems to be failing daily vs CS.

going on ATM

01-15-2010 , 12:11 PM

#522

effuluck

banned

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,145

Quote:

Originally Posted by chob18

you don't seem to read the "regs" thread.

There's a difference between going over a few hands vs different players..not 60k vs 1 player shared with 3 people to take 4 mil off of one guy.....big difference...

Fulltilt obv seen a problem with this as well.

01-15-2010 , 12:13 PM

#523

effuluck

banned

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,145

Quote:

Originally Posted by David123

where does oppenheim get his money from, he seems to be failing daily vs CS.

going on ATM

Good questions...stats have him down over 1.3 mil online.

01-15-2010 , 12:37 PM

#524

David123

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Opie asked for money back in losses if future action was to take place. humiliating, lol.

01-15-2010 , 12:41 PM

#525

moki

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Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,051

Quote:

Originally Posted by effuluck

Theoretical question... if I purchased 50K of a specific villain's hands from PokerTableRatings.com and used them to analyze someone's game... would that be kosher? Or it would it be collaborating due to the fact that I'd have hand histories from a number of different people in the mix?

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