^ Alright bob whatever you say

Sounds like you have gotten the rug pulled out underneath you!

anyone else having problems seeing all the guaranteed mtts?

I still don't get it. If you play NL100$ with 3$ rake, that's 3bbs. If you play NL100€ with 3€ rake, you still have a 3bb rake. You guys convert $ in € but imho you can't think like this because you will still be playing 100bb poker and paying 3bb rake. You do not play NL136 because you have 100bb, not 136.

Also, say you win at 5bb/100h at NL100$. If you have the same winrate in € you will earn more money. Sure, you will pay more rake in $$$, but the number will be the same.

So, you actually pay more rake in $$$ but at the same time you win more money. Is that such a terrible thing?

Stars reduced the rake on the EUR tables. I know you're technically right but the main point is that the rake is capped at 3$ and making tables EUR/GBP just increases the rake cap in $ amount, although in bb/100 it's the same. Although you do "win more money", it's only because every stake is now higher, and it could mean that nl100 EUR is tougher than nl100 USD.

this is bull****

iPoker has made sure not to give out straightforward answers, so I have a question.

In cash games if they state that the rake structure is the same on every table, as in here http://poker.williamhill.com/help/rake-limits-ipoker/ , aren´t they already ****ing everybody by having the same rake caps across the different currency tables? And now they are only removing the "cheapest" dollar tables.

I haven´t played in iPoker for a long time so I have no idea if they have every table in $€£. But if they have and use the same caps on every currency table, then I cannot spot the blatant rake increase.

What I mean is that if they were already raking the £€ games higher than $ then it´s not exactly a rake increase. More like removing cheaper playing options.

Apologies if I missed something, as I tried to read through all the links and threads, but it´s still fairly confusing or there aren´t many written statements from their end how it will play out.

Edit: I sent them a long list of questions although I would not be surprised not getting any meaningful answers.

the USD tables were just eliminated from the lowstakes. Hopefully they don't do it to the midstakes. I like the option of all 3 currencies and I think a lot of people are comfortable playing 1\2, 2\4 etc in USD.

Just tried to chance the currency at my account from $ to euros at Everest poker since I don't want to lose any cents in the currency exchange when I join/leave the table. I was asked all the #*&% documents (which I've sent to them less than a year ago) for them to be able to change the currency in my account. You would think that if they change every game to euros your account would transfer to euros too without any actions needed from the player? Anyway,fortunately I didn't have too much cash there so I didn't have to waste my time for a couple of $...just disappointed how they handle things,I've been very pleased in the way Everest has handled cashouts etc. before this.

lol this is just so ridiculous

There are about 6 normal tables left at low stakes nl hu, normally i don't play these stakes but i was bored so i joined a few.

One multi-accounter had all the tables so i joined them all. He then uses his sit-out - sit in script for 5 minutes obv without playing a single hand and then after 5 minutes I GET REMOVED from all tables because of no action.

To make it even more ridiculous i can't rejoin for 30 minutes and he still sits there with all his tables :S :S

way to go ipoker

Same thing happened to me. I was wondering why he never got kicked off.

You don't lose or gain anything from the currency conversion. Just try for yourself, make a bunch of 1 cent topups, then leave the table and check your balance. It will be the same.

Is it just me or is traffic massively down as it is not just the $ tables that have gone but all players that played on those tables as well? traffic at plo 50/100 is pathetic, they do not seem of just opened up Euros tables instead?

It costs a lot of money to run electronic tables on the internet.

They're screwing people over on currency conversion, so there's that.

okay so i play sngs on ipoker. Can someone explain the currency change? For example i play 20 and 30 dollar double ups with a 10 percent rake but now all i see is 20 and 30 euros. Am i getting hit with a currency fee everytime i buyin or is it everytime i win? What about cashing out? I could still withdraw usd i assume?

At least used to happen that you lose 1-2c occasionally. As for cashouts I've lost more than 5% from just a few hundred $ cashouts when they've converted it to euros...it's due to everest or ratesfx.com where I checked the amount from.

theres a guy in the regs thread saying that we now have lower rakeback % because of the currency change

Can someone answer this?


I just used the euro to usd calculator so now the $30+3 double up sngs that are $33 buyin are now really $37.17+$3.68= $40.85 buyin now?

$30+$3 would equal $40.54 + $4.05 is what I get when converting. I was using .74 usd per euro

cap rake in HU to 0,5€ or less plz

So in other words, these double up sngs are now higher stakes then?

everything is higher stakes, with a much higher rake

Yes, and like alobar said rake is much higher now since rake is now capped at 3euros, when before it was capped at 3 usd for cash tables. Basically meaning cash tables are now capped at 4.05 usd for rake.

Unlike stars I poker never fixed the rake caps after conversion. And we have heard no plans to of any fix coming anytime soon.

does this also mean that players are losing money on the conversion charge when playing these games since its euro and not usd? What about cash game? I heard something like you going to lose a few cents every pot if you play cash game and for sng... i didnt hear anything about this but does it affect it as well?


Is this going to have any conversion fees or anything when cashing out to skrill? I use usd and have usd balance so would i be withdrawing my balance in usd? I havent played any sngs on titan and wanted to know.