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Old 02-15-2016, 12:58 PM   #1
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Iovation back in Nevada

It appears that the Nevada Gaming Control Board has given Iovation conditional approval to offer Geo-Location services in Nevada.

DISPOSITION
NONRESTRICTED AGENDA
FEBRUARY 2016
PAGE 5
FOR POSSIBLE ACTION:
03-02-16 N14-0457 Re: 32742-01
08-15 32743-01
IOVATION, INC.
111 SW FIFTH AVE, STE 3200
PORTLAND, OR 97204
APPLICATION FOR LICENSURE AS A SERVICE PROVIDER
(GEOLOCATION SERVICE PROVIDER ONLY)
GCB RECOMMENDS: APPROVAL, CONDITIONED:
(1) IOVATION, INC., IS LIMITED TO GEOLOCATION SERVICE PROVIDER ONLY.
(2) IOVATION, INC., MUST NOTIFY THE GCB OF ANY NEW CONTRACTS OR CHANGES TO ANY EXISTING
GEOLOCATION CONTRACT WITH NEVADA GAMING LICENSEES WITHIN 30 DAYS OF EXECUTION OF ANY
NEW OR AMENDED CONTRACTS.
(3) ANY CHANGE IN THE OWNERSHIP INTEREST OF THE LICENSEE MUST BE REPORTED IN WRITING TO THE
GCB WITHIN 30 DAYS OF SUCH CHANGE.
(REID VOTED NO)
NGC DISPOSITION:

See http://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdoc...cumentid=10840 and search for Iovation to bring up the disposition.
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Old 02-15-2016, 01:03 PM   #2
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Re: Iovation back in Nevada

There is still time to go to the Nevada Gaming Commission meeting on February 18th 10 AM to let our voices be heard.

*Nevada Gaming Control Board Offices
Hearing Room 2450
555 East Washington Avenue
Las Vegas, Nevada
February 18, 2016
10:00 A.M.
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:42 PM   #3
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I notice the application is only for geolocation and not related to its main device reputation product. I'm compiling information for this. Thanks for the heads up Steve.
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:06 PM   #4
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This company are total scum with their invasion of privacy on end users. IESnare borders on illegal under EU law I am convinced.

That's even before we get into their boss Greg Pierson and his alleged links to the UB cheaters https://gregpiersoniovation.wordpres...-ultimate-bet/

They should have no business in the gambling world and any company headed by Pierson should be blacklisted
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:42 PM   #5
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I seriously hope some of Haley's excellent work makes its way to the NGC before they make their decision.
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Old 02-16-2016, 09:31 AM   #6
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Pretty disgusting anyone would still do business with these scum.
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Old 02-16-2016, 12:18 PM   #7
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This is shame, didn't the new nevada online poker client use iovation and with enough backlash they used a different vendor. This was 1-2 years ago?
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Old 02-16-2016, 02:04 PM   #8
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^^ Yes. You are correct.
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Old 02-16-2016, 02:19 PM   #9
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Seems like Caps Lock got stuck again.
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Old 02-16-2016, 03:37 PM   #10
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This is shame, didn't the new nevada online poker client use iovation and with enough backlash they used a different vendor. This was 1-2 years ago?
Indeed. That was Ultimate Poker.
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:39 PM   #11
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send them the makar tapes. If they listen, should be enough
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Old 02-16-2016, 09:35 PM   #12
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send them the makar tapes. If they listen, should be enough
I contacted the investigations department of NGCB yesterday with a link to those tapes among other things. I am seriously considering going to the hearing to testify.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:00 AM   #13
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I contacted the investigations department of NGCB yesterday with a link to those tapes among other things. I am seriously considering going to the hearing to testify.
Please do!
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:45 AM   #14
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Re: Iovation back in Nevada

Bob Voulgaris retweeted some of Haley's points about Iovation and the general investigative incompetence at best of the NGC in this regard.
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Old 02-17-2016, 03:09 PM   #15
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This company are total scum with their invasion of privacy on end users. IESnare borders on illegal under EU law I am convinced.

That's even before we get into their boss Greg Pierson and his alleged links to the UB cheaters https://gregpiersoniovation.wordpres...-ultimate-bet/

They should have no business in the gambling world and any company headed by Pierson should be blacklisted
This
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Old 02-17-2016, 06:33 PM   #16
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Maybe people don't care anymore. I have not seen much support for blocking these guys. I don't think anybody in Las Vegas is willing to go speak at the hearing besides me. I wonder if it happened too long ago.
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Old 02-17-2016, 08:47 PM   #17
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Maybe people don't care anymore. I have not seen much support for blocking these guys. I don't think anybody in Las Vegas is willing to go speak at the hearing besides me. I wonder if it happened too long ago.
If I was anywhere close to Vegas I'd be there. I kept it private at the time, but the NGC did contact me in November and I shared plenty of hard info with them, including the Makar tapes and other stuff. As I suspected, it appears to have been a lip-service effort on the part of the NGC. This is all disgraceful.
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Old 02-17-2016, 08:49 PM   #18
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it always disappoints me when the internet can't do more to destroy a company like iovation
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Old 02-17-2016, 09:28 PM   #19
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If I was anywhere close to Vegas I'd be there. I kept it private at the time, but the NGC did contact me in November and I shared plenty of hard info with them, including the Makar tapes and other stuff. As I suspected, it appears to have been a lip-service effort on the part of the NGC. This is all disgraceful.
I've spoken to about a dozen people. This echos a lot of the sentiment. I've been told "You're wasting your time" by many of them. I'm starting to feel like they are right.

I emailed NGC information about how Iovation's iesnare is being used by offshore sites and how that may violate the covered asset provision but never heard back.
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Old 02-18-2016, 03:18 AM   #20
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Please do go the meeting.
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Old 02-18-2016, 03:51 AM   #21
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As a Nevada resident & someone who plays on wsop.com every day I assure you that we do care. It is unacceptable for this guy to have any part in regulated gaming. I for one appreciate you leading the fight in this for us. Many thanks!
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Old 02-18-2016, 03:59 AM   #22
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Yeah you are appreciated Pokeraddict, keep it up dude.
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Old 02-18-2016, 04:12 AM   #23
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John, no promises, but I will try to go to the meeting. Not sure what I can do, except express my displeasure with the idea of Iovation being allowed to do business in the state of Nevada.
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Old 02-18-2016, 04:58 AM   #24
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it's all pretty sick ... big thanks for your efforts!
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Old 02-18-2016, 01:31 PM   #25
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What part of used customers information against them to cheat them does gaming not understand.

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