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09-07-2012 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ChasingAces
Oh wow. I was a skeptic but I still though there was a small chance of some sort of huge tournament still happening. This doesn't look good.

Also is it 20m guaranteed now or just estimated? I think it's estimated
I just watched video on their site http://www.ispt.com/en/actus/ispt-tv/
42 seconds in Tapie states

"The guaranteed prize-pool is 20 million euros, the biggest prize pool ever guaranteed in poker history"

Of course this could be one big bluff by a new French poker company
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09-07-2012 , 07:04 AM
WTF is this? A year long level?
If so well played OP, if not LOL.
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09-07-2012 , 07:33 AM
Patrik Antonius and Liz Lieu join Sam Tricket and Michael Mizrachi as ambassadors of the event:

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news...ums-poker-tour
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09-07-2012 , 09:57 AM
I do have news for the 20M guarantee.

20M is the guarantee for the Main event AND the side events. NOT JUST FOR THE MAIN EVENT. It's been revealed by Prosper Masquelier himself yesterday.

20M guarantee for MAIN EVENT + SIDE EVENTS combined.
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09-07-2012 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Crocker
Carfax/Stephen keeps mentioning a guarantee but it's clearly not the case.
It gets pointed out yesterday that I haven't posted since 31st July, I make one post in reply saying that I have no other news to supply and because of that I'm constantly mentioning a guarantee???? wtf loik!

Anyway, I was as shocked as anyone when the word "guarantee" came down off the ISPT website (I know you're a genuine poster on here Matt, so I'm not trying to be smart when I point out that I have to actually mention that word "guarantee" in this sentence).
I haven't had a huge amount of information from the ISPT team since then, but I'm assuming that's because there is a huge amount of work going into this project (and by the way I believe it will go ahead, there's simply been too much time, effort and money invested by too many people for it not to run and once whatever adjustments are being made are 100% confirmed I hope we can move on).

I hope there will be as many positive comments as there were negative, now that Partouche have actually honoured a €750k overlay (will even one poster [or more importantly any player that took part in the event] give them some credit, I hope so).....As information comes through (and believe me I want all the facts cleared up as soon as possible) about the ISPT I hope everyone will keep an open mind (as it is a brand new concept of course) and remember that this overlay was honoured.

Cheers,
Stephen.
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09-07-2012 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by elbuennico
I do have news for the 20M guarantee.

20M is the guarantee for the Main event AND the side events. NOT JUST FOR THE MAIN EVENT. It's been revealed by Prosper Masquelier himself yesterday.

20M guarantee for MAIN EVENT + SIDE EVENTS combined.
he basically said that 'between the lines' in an interview (end of july?) and i asked this Q specifically (twice), but got no answer from carfax so far (but thread is growing fast, so no bother).


imo ispt isn't sure what guaranteed/estimated pricepool they offer, so it's doubtful if PM stays with his statement.

but since kevmath confirmed this 'over the whole series thing', it must be true


carfax bump

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Originally Posted by NerdSuperfly
@ Stephen

i've read an interview w/ prosper masquelier an he said that the €20m are guaranteed "over the whole tournament". He also said something about Side Events.

---> Does this mean that the €20 million are guaranteed over the whole series or just the main event

i also was wondering that pm said that the online part of the 'main event' is with unlimited rebuys

---> so it is €600 (1a1r) or w/ unlimited rebuys?

edit: wooops, stephen already posted while i was answering ... internet is fast, nowadays
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09-07-2012 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by carfax
Anyway, I was as shocked as anyone when the word "guarantee" came down off the ISPT website (I know you're a genuine poster on here Matt, so I'm not trying to be smart when I point out that I have to actually mention that word "guarantee" in this sentence).
I haven't had a huge amount of information from the ISPT team since then, but I'm assuming that's because there is a huge amount of work going into this project [...]
seriously Stephen, imo you will ruin your reputation with your work for ispt. this whole thing is a joke. first they announced $30m then €20m (guaranteed) ... now it seems to be for more than the 'main event'.

the rake is joke (even not funny) and everybody is still wondering, how ispt will manage that a €600 rebuy satellite will last 2 days

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Originally Posted by carfax
I hope there will be as many positive comments as there were negative, now that Partouche have actually honoured a €750k overlay (will even one poster [or more importantly any player that took part in the event] give them some credit, I hope so).....
this is even a bigger joke ... they honored what?!?!?

plz don't say the didn't guarantee it in first place ... should anybody be thankful, that finally - after 2+2 and other sources made a big scandal out of this - they just payed what the promised?

if you think so, then it is clear, that ispt biggest tournament ever will be a major fail, too


i think it is very strange, that the communication (between you and ispt) is so bad, that you don't have any information about the price pool (especially if the €20m are for the ME only or the whole series (what ever that is))
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09-07-2012 , 12:04 PM
You can trust the info. Prosper Masquelier revealed it yesterday night on a radio show.
It's confirmed the 20M guarantee is for main event + side events (not just for the main)
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09-07-2012 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NerdSuperfly
carfax bump
edit: wooops, stephen already posted while i was answering ... internet is fast, nowadays
Hi mate, yes saw your question in relation to this, but I don't want to answer until I have confirmation of everything from the guys in the ISPT team....this was indicated to me verbally a good while back (that the guarantee would be divided [and advertised in advance] over the whole festival and not just the main event) but I don't want to post any information until its available on the ISPT website.

I believe the main problem so far has been lack of concrete information for players, this just leads to speculation and wires getting crossed (and in the mean-time a lot of players will make their mind up not to play) but I'm hoping everyone keeps an open-mind and when everything is settled those that choose to enter and compete will be part of a really exciting poker festival.

Cheers,
Stephen.
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09-07-2012 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by carfax
Hi mate, yes saw your question in relation to this, but I don't want to answer until I have confirmation of everything from the guys in the ISPT team....this was indicated to me verbally a good while back (that the guarantee would be divided [and advertised in advance] over the whole festival and not just the main event) but I don't want to post any information until its available on the ISPT website.
okay, hope you will find out, what we want to know

take care
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09-07-2012 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NerdSuperfly
seriously Stephen, imo you will ruin your reputation with your work for ispt. this whole thing is a joke. first they announced $30m then €20m (guaranteed) ... now it seems to be for more than the 'main event'.

I realise there have been changes to the guarantee of the ISPT. I also realise that it is in the process of being changed again (and has been since the word "guarantee" was taken off the website), but all this is before a single player, to my knowledge, has actually paid an entry fee or booked an flight or hotel...Of course if any players have actually paid in already and want a refund because of these changes then I can't see there being a problem from ISPT.

Whatever about my reputation, I'm on board because I believe in the project (I have suggested numerous changes, based on a lot of feedback here, to the team that I believe will make it far more appealing for players)


the rake is joke (even not funny) and everybody is still wondering, how ispt will manage that a €600 rebuy satellite will last 2 days

If you don't like the rake don't play (vote with your feet as they say). I couldn't care less what the amount is as long as its advertised in advance so that players can make their mind up to play or not.

this is even a bigger joke ... they honored what?!?!?

plz don't say the didn't guarantee it in first place ... should anybody be thankful, that finally - after 2+2 and other sources made a big scandal out of this - they just payed what the promised?

When did I say they didn't guarantee it in the first place. I think I'm going to take a break from 2p2, at least for a few weeks anyway, I make what I believe to be a clear and valid point and you try to turn it into something I didn't say (any blind monkey could see the flip-flop was a result of pressure put on from the players that took part and to a much lesser extent media and forum posters...I'm also assuming Matt Savage had to use considerable savy to see through this end result....but don't say that I'm trying to argue on behalf of anyone (players or the organisers), I simply pointed out that people should be as positive about good news as they were negative about bad news.

if you think so, then it is clear, that ispt biggest tournament ever will be a major fail, too


i think it is very strange, that the communication (between you and ispt) is so bad, that you don't have any information about the price pool (especially if the €20m are for the ME only or the whole series (what ever that is))
Why do you think its strange? Its just because I've been posting and trying to answer as many questions, I'm based in Dublin and have been giving as much information as possible but my role is clear in relation to this event, I'm facilitating player registrations for UK & Ireland primarily but don't expect anyone to register until everything gets cleared up....Other than that I'm recruiting staff for the event, I don't make any of the decisions relating to this event so why would I have information before its officially posted on ispt.com?

Anyway, time for me to take a break from this thread for a while.

If any players or dealing staff need any information please do email stephen[at]ispt.com
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09-07-2012 , 12:59 PM
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I simply pointed out that people should be as positive about good news as they were negative about bad news.
Can you really not see that this is totally flawed in this case? Partouche tried to screw the players. Public pressure forced them not to. Are we really supposed to be as positive about that as we were negative about the initial screwing?
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09-08-2012 , 05:48 PM
Carfax, people at 2+2 aren't stupid and the more you treat them as morons the more backlash you will get.
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09-08-2012 , 06:03 PM
Everyone really wants this to fail but i think itd be pretty cool.
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09-09-2012 , 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jaimestaples
Everyone really wants this to fail but i think itd be pretty cool.
I think it's the opposite, most people would want it to succeed (I definitely do), as it would give the poker industry a massive boost, especially in the UK. But we haven't seen enough to make us hopeful yet IMO.
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09-09-2012 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeedz
I think it's the opposite, most people would want it to succeed (I definitely do), as it would give the poker industry a massive boost, especially in the UK. But we haven't seen enough to make us hopeful yet IMO.
I think you have it right. The problem is its such a new way to run a tournement alot of players are concerned. Maybe they should of started with a smaller prize pool that is more archivable.

I gotta laugh at some of the questions. Some guy asking if there will be enought washrooms for the 30,000 players. Asking this for a place designed to hold 90,000 football fans.
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09-09-2012 , 09:09 AM
carfax,
You are the same person who promoted the 1.2M Euro prizepool Super tournament in Dublin this past February that ended up being a 250K correct?
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09-09-2012 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Bw117
carfax,
You are the same person who promoted the 1.2M Euro prizepool Super tournament in Dublin this past February that ended up being a 250K correct?
Not sure but I beleive that tourney was estimated 1.2m Euro
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09-09-2012 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by carfax
I realise there have been changes to the guarantee of the ISPT. I also realise that it is in the process of being changed again (and has been since the word "guarantee" was taken off the website), but all this is before a single player, to my knowledge, has actually paid an entry fee or booked an flight or hotel...Of course if any players have actually paid in already and want a refund because of these changes then I can't see there being a problem from ISPT.

Whatever about my reputation, I'm on board because I believe in the project (I have suggested numerous changes, based on a lot of feedback here, to the team that I believe will make it far more appealing for players)
So you are saying you don't see anything wrong with marketing the $20M guarantee for months and generating the buzz, as long as anyone, "to your knowledge", hasn't paid an entry fee or booked a flight/hotel.

And obviously, you won't have the knowledge whether any single person in the world has booked a flight or a hotel yet for this event.

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09-09-2012 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DavidNB
Not sure but I beleive that tourney was estimated 1.2m Euro
The advertising was misleading and for months he implied that it would "easily" hit 1.2M. Based on his history I think 20% of the guaranteed ("Estimated") prize pool is a fair estimate for this ISPT tourney.
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09-09-2012 , 11:55 AM
I'm still skeptical about this tourney. I guess we'll have answers soon in a future press conference.

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09-09-2012 , 12:09 PM
20M over the whole series. Can somebody explain the Process - What if the Main Event starts - the series ends and there was just 18 Mio awarded? Where do they add the other 2 Million? Is there a procedure for this?
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09-09-2012 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PSUStudent
So you are saying you don't see anything wrong with marketing the $20M guarantee for months and generating the buzz, as long as anyone, "to your knowledge", hasn't paid an entry fee or booked a flight/hotel.

And obviously, you won't have the knowledge whether any single person in the world has booked a flight or a hotel yet for this event.
And yet their website says 3,333 registered players, which proves that this means "having registered an interest". However, this isn't how the average player will interpret the statement and I'm sure the "organisers" know this. Shady.
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09-09-2012 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bw117
The advertising was misleading and for months he implied that it would "easily" hit 1.2M. Based on his history I think 20% of the guaranteed ("Estimated") prize pool is a fair estimate for this ISPT tourney.
Thats fine, as long as they don t say guaranteed. I think even the WSOP gives estimates on the purse
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09-09-2012 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidNB
Thats fine, as long as they don t say guaranteed. I think even the WSOP gives estimates on the purse
Does it? Where?

Also they did say guaranteed for a long time, over 2,000 people were registered when it said guaranteed on the website.
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