I made a bet on the Final Table....Did I take the right side? - Poker News

I made a bet with a friend on who would win the WSOP Main Event.

He offered me the two chip leaders and the two short stacks and he took the middle five.

I have:

Dennis Phillips, 26,295,000
Ivan Demidov, 24,400,000
Craig Marquis, 10,210,000
Kelly Kim, 2,620,000

He has:

Scott Montgomery, 19,690,000
Peter Eastgate, 18,375,000
Ylon Schwartz, 12,525,000
Darus Suharto, 12,520,000
David "Chino" Rheem, 10,230,000

What do you think? Which side would you have taken?

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11-06-2008 , 02:15 PM

cruising600

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I personally think that your friend got the better side of the deal. You basically have 3 players, Kelly is too big of a long shot. Big stacks come and go..

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11-06-2008 , 02:22 PM

TheSlinger

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Man, just take Demidov and give him the other 8.

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11-06-2008 , 02:24 PM

recondite7

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I would add the chip stacks of each side up and see which one is bigger and then compare it to the skill of the players on each side.

He has more chips than you and skill on each side washes each other out I would guess.

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11-06-2008 , 02:32 PM

Riveredya

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People are high on Eastgate... so based on chips and and No. of players, I think your buddy is getting the deal.

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11-06-2008 , 02:35 PM

Hi?

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switch Rheem for Marquis and I think it's fair.

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11-06-2008 , 02:36 PM

TheCanoe

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I would take action on your side OP.

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11-06-2008 , 02:40 PM

Beatngreet415

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Originally Posted by TheCanoe

I would take action on your side OP.

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11-06-2008 , 02:40 PM

DannyVegas89

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i think its a 50/50 simply bcoz u have ivan demidov

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11-06-2008 , 02:56 PM

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dlk9s

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Originally Posted by DannyVegas89

i think its a 50/50 simply bcoz u either win or you lose

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11-06-2008 , 03:10 PM

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thrasher789

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Originally Posted by TheSlinger

Man, just take Demidov and give him the other 8.

for real

But seriously, getting the chip leader, the best player (imo, Ivan) and the best of the shorter stacks (Craig) seems fine to me. I like your side just as much as the other except Eastgate is pretty sick.

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11-06-2008 , 03:12 PM

#12

Cr@ckers717

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i take OP's side, demidov is good player, phillips seems to know what he is doin and so does marquis

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11-06-2008 , 04:00 PM

#13

lenC

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Calculate ICM and and a little something for Demidov and you'll have it.

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11-06-2008 , 04:20 PM

#14

blah_blah

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since this is winner take all i don't think icm is relevant (am i missing something)? OP's friend has nearly 20 million more chips combined than OP does, so it's hard to think that he doesn't have a pretty big advantage in this bet unless there's a very big skill difference.

i have no idea how good the players are supposed to be so i can't really comment there.

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11-06-2008 , 04:37 PM

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qwertyu121

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OP's friend has a better chance at winning. OP only has 3 legit competitors out of 9 considering kim is virtually out of it. OP's friend FTW IMO

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11-06-2008 , 04:38 PM

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DrMickHead

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I'd take OP's side because I think he has the better players. Though I think it's a very tough call still.

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11-06-2008 , 05:03 PM

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JulioYalil

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this is really hard to answer correctly without knowing where they will be seated relative to each other. still i think i'd take ur side of it because u have 3 of the 4 players i think will win it (the 4th one is chino).

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11-06-2008 , 10:03 PM

#18

patstap

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Originally Posted by DrMickHead

I'd take OP's side because I think he has the better players. Though I think it's a very tough call still.

Figured it was a coin flip, at worst

I get Phillips, who's my sentimental favorite.

I get the Russian, who I think has the best chance of winning.

I get 2+2er Craig Marquis with a "short" stack of over 10 million.

Lastly, for a wild card, I get to root for Kim to triple up or double-double up and get back in it.

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11-06-2008 , 11:20 PM

#19

sickaz

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I got 5 to 1 on Ivan Demidov on partypoker bets

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11-06-2008 , 11:30 PM

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ActionJeff

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i like ur side

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11-06-2008 , 11:47 PM

#21

shaniac

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middle 5 ftw.

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11-06-2008 , 11:49 PM

#22

DavidTth

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MY SIDE:

1. Ivan Demidov
2. Peter Eastgate
3. Scott Montgomery
4. Chino Rheem

FUBSTER'S SIDE:

1. Craig Marquis
2. Dennis Phillips
3. Ylon Schwartz
4. Darus Suharto

he's such a fish. we ignored kelly kim.

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11-07-2008 , 02:33 AM

#23

mw828

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Originally Posted by DavidTth

thats just not even fair. you got the three most established players in the field.

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11-07-2008 , 05:11 AM

#24

Appleberry

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Me:
Scott Montgomery, 19,690,000
Peter Eastgate, 18,375,000
Craig Marquis, 10,210,000

Friend 1:
Ivan Demidov, 24,400,000
Kelly Kim, 2,620,000
Ylon Schwartz, 12,525,000

Friend 2:
Dennis Phillips, 26,295,000
Darus Suharto, 12,520,000
David "Chino" Rheem, 10,230,000