Another simple solution...


Allow the player to start up their own table...PROBLEM SOLVED.

No, more like a group of players who recognise an idiotic idea and who present simple examples to expose its flaws. There is no argument here, and there is no person offering a solution to bots that I can see. In addition, I'd imagine any bot owners would encourage your idea rather than try to deter you.

And you honestly don't see how this could be a problem?

No, I don't see a problem with allowing players to start up their own tables...That entirely prevents the potential problem you pointed out from taking place...

Why don't you enlighten me? What problem do you have to whine about now?

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Why do you assume that people who point out clear and obvious flaws with your preposterous suggestion are whining? Why don't you welcome feedback and constructive criticism?

Have you tried starting games before? How long did it take you to get multiple tables going?

I'd rather deal with that than sitting with bots...

It seems to me you're more interesting in thinking of ways to mess up the sites. Rather than fix them...Which, is interesting considering how much these sites have been messed up since Black Friday...

You're making statements about "Cartels" showing up on the sites. That's interesting because I've heard that America's Cardroom is actually owned by the Sinola Cartel...That's an interesting term to use in relation to what I've heard about that site.

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No, you muppet. I'm telling you that games would dry up, and your response is to say that you'd rather sit at an empty table and to make some other irrelevant comment.

As if anyone would ever use this for anything other than automated bumhunting

The games already have dried up...So, we have nothing to lose...

Plus, once a player has their stats examined they won't be able to get blocked.

So, your hypothesis is false...

Most people would use it to block the bots that get exposed on 2 + 2...Once the regs have their stats reviewed they won't be able to get blocked. So, the bumhunting scenario is only possible for so long...

You guys keep going in circles and ignoring what I'm proposing at the same time. Do these BOT programs have AI programs included that can post on forums, too? It's like that scene from the movie Total Recall:

Security guard: "How long are staying on Mars, Mam?"

Arnold: "Two weeks."

Security guard: "Any fruits, or vegetables with you?"

Arnold: "Two weeks."

Security guard: "I'm sorry?"

Arnold: "Two weeks."




Are you guys about to pull off your Robot Head and start shooting?


lulz

Bot makers must be shltting themselves.

Nah. The sites available to Americans are too shady.

Half the BOTS are probably operated by THEM...

No it wouldn't. Once a bot owner finds out a loophole, they will keep using it until it's fixed. And it's not exactly a difficult loophole to spot.

So implement a system that is completely ineffective and gets us back at square one? Why would a site ever waste time and resources on such a thing?

Mods need to delete this trash, it would be one thing if it was useful/feasible. This guy is just brain damaged and pushing nonsense. Lock this trash already.

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But I want to play with him at your table, because there are also 4 other players that might be making that a good table. If you click the bot button you are deciding for me who I get to play against if I am at your table.

I'm not proposing kicking players off of tables.


I'm proposing blocking them from tables in future sessions. So, you have leave the table after blocking them in order to keep them from sitting at your tables. You can't kick them off the table, though.

Another BOT user has entered the thread.

Hi there...

The only people who would have a problem with this are BOT users...They need to open BOT rehab clinics...You need to get off that bot junk man...


lulz

Phil Nagy is getting so many death threats he needs a personal body guard at all times...

When that's the case it's time to make big changes, or sell the site and get out of the industry...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrtu-7aiMlU&t=772s

It seems to me that he's pointing out potential flaws in your idea, and ways people will try to exploit it. Why is this such a problem for you? How else do you expect your idea to improve?

You know what's not interesting? All the silly insinuations you make about people who are critical of your idea.

That's kind of how I feel as well. Seemed a ridiculous idea when I first read about it, and while it still seems pretty unworkable, the OP had a couple interesting solutions to some of the problems. It's a shame that he/she seems to take criticism of the idea so personally, leading to ridiculous assertions of people ganging up on him, being bot owners (or BOT owners - not sure what BOT is an acronym for), and other odd insinuations.

I already thought of a solution to the "potential problem" he pointed out and he kept stating the problem over again...

Either, he's in denial, or he's just trying to cause problems at that point...


He stated himself that some organized "Cartel" of people would show up to cause problems and here we have a group trying to cause problems...

So...


It's a logical assumption given how big the problem is now on these sites and how reluctant the sites are to deal with the problem. Combine that with the fact the guy is openly stating that "Cartels" of people will show up and cause problems it's only logical to assume similar groups of people would show up to the forum and do the same.

Plus, I'm mostly just joking around...Mostly.

No, I pointed out your "solution" of players having to start their own games had it's own flaws.


I talked about a major flaw. The term "cartel' was used as it is already in use to describe an equivalent system surrounding groups of SnG players.

No one is trying to cause problems, quite the contrary- people are highlighting potential problems; a necessary process if issues are to be resolved in any system.

Your paranoia/ego/child-like mentality (or some combination of the three) is impeding your [non particularly well-though out] idea from gaining any remote traction.

This. Using the term "cartel" is indicative of...nothing.

My father was a DEA Agent in a border state in 2016...


Our family received some Death Threats from Cartel guys post Trump election. One of the statements these guys made was that they owned Americas Cardroom and stole money from me on there when I played. They said they manipulate stats to hide the rigging. So, yes it is most definitely "indicative" of something. You delete this thread and we'll put you in handcuffs for helping them out. Understand?

The days of these Cartel guys robbing unsuspecting players are OVER...If you were smart you'd get off this thread and stop posting right now...Your hard headed Cartel buddies have big mouths and not enough muscle to back it up.


Just FYI....WE at the CIA don't care what the FBI says...

No, it's not indicative of anything in the way that you were implying. The word may have personal meaning to you, but that doesn't have anything to do with what someone else meant when they used the word.

Who suggested deleting the thread? But I'll tell you this much - your threats will have no bearing on what happens with this thread. If mods felt it needed to be deleted, or do in the future, it would be.

Wow, you've really gone off the deep end here. Or your jokes are getting odder.

If you're concerned about this thread being locked or deleted by an NVG mod, I'd get back on track with your original topic rather than making this into some kind of WPN cartel rigging conspiracy thread, or whatever it is you're doing now.

Not picking any side here, but bots are obviously real, and not only on ACR.

Anyone saying differently is either in denial or ill-intended.