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Originally Posted by rdedrde1
Are you Paint on a burner account?
(If no who are you? Why are you invested in the situation?)
I am interested in the situation but am not directly involved so have kept it @ a distance.
You seem not to have.
Quite simple really.
1. No coach on earth would be able to use a 6k HU sample a devise a counter strategy against someone learning a GTO strategy, they wouldn’t waste their time on it.
2. Over 2 years the hand sample would likely be significantly different.
3. You could not develop a strategy over 25k hands let alone 6000 hands as variance would likely factor in Brandon’s “exploitative” play.
4. Even if there was a magical strategy that you could develop , I don’t think that Thomas would be capable of coaching it or even comprehending it.
7. After x amount of hands being beaten Brandon suspends play and starts conversations by which he suspects zenith is coaching paint.
8. Why would he suspect this? It would be almost impossible to know.
5. Even if all of the above occurred I personally don’t think it is cheating, unethical yes, cheating no.
6. I suspect that the Arbs would likely be susceptible to backlash if there was evidence of unethical play they would be in a very tough spot and almost have to claim the situation as cheating to uphold their status in the community.
In my personal opinion it is much easier to identify GTO frequencies in spots from students if you have been taught them yourself.
It could be as simple as two players are taught one spot very strong and then other spots very weak. The player that plays 2 years after still remains somewhat strong in spots Zenith coached well but weak in others and this exploit/ realisation is then an angle.
I believe in this specific case that Brandon has identified such aspects in paints game, may have been aware of Zenith coaching him and maybe used that as an angle as an out for being down so much.
Identifying that your opponent is using a strategy that was likely taught to you 2 years ago is much more believable than figuring out that you’re being exploited from a 6k hand sample.
No horse in the race just logically doesn’t seem right to me.
My logic combined with the actual events seems more likely to me than cheating from a 6k hand sample. The only people that have that information are the ARBs, so with complete respect to them can we just specifically clarify exactly what was cheating?
Last edited by Koshko; 06-09-2023 at 12:07 PM.