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03-14-2022 , 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerEthics
If anyone wants to see the Alex duval interview that makes her likeable and you kinda get to know her story here it is:

https://youtu.be/wswu7bA5Cmw
She comes off a whole lot better here than she does on stream, but I do find it odd she brings up this brain injury and then talks around it for 5 mins and doesn’t wanna talk about it.

She says the poker community knows?

Edit - I simply googled it, which I assumed wouldn’t work. Sad… leave poker bunny alone
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03-14-2022 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Rmbxr9
She comes off a whole lot better here than she does on stream, but I do find it odd she brings up this brain injury and then talks around it for 5 mins and doesn’t wanna talk about it.

She says the poker community knows?

Edit - I simply googled it, which I assumed wouldn’t work. Sad… leave poker bunny alone
Cheers for that interview as I enjoyed finding out a bit more of her life.

She definately has a love for poker and it helps her to enjoy life. Good luck at the tables Poker Bunny and looking forward to your heads up battle with Ben.
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03-14-2022 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JERRYJ0NES
A person who is quite possibly on the spectrum is being sexualized for clicks and views by men twice her age and you dont feel thats exploitation?
Shes sexualizing herself. Its a thing women do on the internet (IRL Too!) to great success.

I don't watch the streams, but seems like shes +EV in the games? Kinda sounds like shes exploiting them.
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03-14-2022 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla

As for his real estate scam? I read some of those complaints(well over 500) on the BBB website and he is a pathetic snake. He preyed on vulnerable people selling them garbage and duped them. They were mostly hard working people looking to hopefully learn and develop real estate to make their lives better. Instead they got dog ****.

Nick Vertucci is a real piece of work. He's scum. Hence why people like convicted felon rapist sexual assaulter kidnapper scammer Lucky got invited on the stream. Nick doesn't care and didn't care. Because Nick is a scammer himself.
Charging too much for a course isn’t exactly a scam. It might not be worth what people paid but buyers have to be ware.

I don’t mean to blame victims but cmon who the f pays $40k for 3 day course or whatever.. the numbers simply don’t add up in my brain. How could you possibly get that much value in 3 days?

Part of the blame is on the greedy people falling for a get rich quick scheme.

Idk.. lawyers and salesmen and a lot of people in real estate are overcharging all day everyday and making a business out of it. It just seems unfair to point out nick. I cringe when I hear OPM.

I also don’t know enough about the BBB or whatever regulates this sort of thing to say how scammy it was. But simply over charging idiots is on par with out maneuvering someone at a poker table. You’re taking advantage of being smarter than people.

I could be convinced he’s more of a scammer w more details but on the surface he’s just a fish oil salesman at worst and like every other person I’ve ever met in the real estate world at best.
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03-14-2022 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerEthics
Charging too much for a course isn’t exactly a scam. It might not be worth what people paid but buyers have to be ware.

I don’t mean to blame victims but cmon who the f pays $40k for 3 day course or whatever.. the numbers simply don’t add up in my brain. How could you possibly get that much value in 3 days?

Part of the blame is on the greedy people falling for a get rich quick scheme.

Idk.. lawyers and salesmen and a lot of people in real estate are overcharging all day everyday and making a business out of it. It just seems unfair to point out nick. I cringe when I hear OPM.

I also don’t know enough about the BBB or whatever regulates this sort of thing to say how scammy it was. But simply over charging idiots is on par with out maneuvering someone at a poker table. You’re taking advantage of being smarter than people.

I could be convinced he’s more of a scammer w more details but on the surface he’s just a fish oil salesman at worst and like every other person I’ve ever met in the real estate world at best.
this isn't the scam part

the scam part is they offer money back guarantee if they don't make back that 40k in the real estate market within a year and then refuse to pay that

the fake money back guarantee is the scam, he lies to people and convinces them it's a freeroll so they put their life savings that they can't afford to lose on this thinking if it doesn't work out they'll at least get refunded and then they never pay out the refund - without that money back guarantee they'd probably never convince anyone to drop tens of thousands on a three day course
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03-14-2022 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
this isn't the scam part

the scam part is they offer money back guarantee if they don't make back that 40k in the real estate market within a year and then refuse to pay that

the fake money back guarantee is the scam, he lies to people and convinces them it's a freeroll so they put their life savings that they can't afford to lose on this thinking if it doesn't work out they'll at least get refunded and then they never pay out the refund - without that money back guarantee they'd probably never convince anyone to drop tens of thousands on a three day course
Ya that changes things a bit.. but people should not expect free rolls ..

Nick what’s your defense for this?
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03-14-2022 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerEthics
Ya that changes things a bit.. but people should not expect free rolls ..

Nick what’s your defense for this?
you can read a number of his responses here https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/orange/pro...518/complaints

so it's less of a guarantee and more of a "don't suck at business caveat"

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Mr. ****** is asking for a refund because of lack of potential investments. Throughout the United States there are numerous potential investments in real estate now and will be in the future. Mr. ****** also mentioned some of his misfortune in his investing. Our company is not accountable in perpetuity to Mr. ******‘s investing success or lack of success. We have numerous students over the years who have had much success and this is documented in our testimonials that are backed by affidavits and paperwork.

I’ve use this example before and I will use it again - this would be the same as an individual going to college and getting a degree, and then getting out of college and not having success in their field. Which in fact there were hundreds of students who went through the same university in the same classes with the same degrees and found much success. Success is individual and based on actions. Our company cannot be liable for the ongoing success of thousands of trained students.

In conclusion, we gave Mr. ****** all his training and he was fulfilled 100%. Again, this would be like going to college and graduating with a degree in a certain field and then years later, after that individual did not have success, wanting their tuition back from the college. When In fact they were given all that they paid for and many who also had the same training / teachings found success. Success is individual when investing as it is in anything in life.

We believe this complaint is unfounded and unjust and ask that it be taken down and not counted against us.

Respectfully
Nick ********
Owner
it's actually pretty brilliant, nowhere is the guarantee in writing, it can't be found anywhere on their website
http://nvrea.com/about/

yet it's clearly something regularly stated and repeated in the free workshops because most of the complaints against him are about not honoring the money back guarantee

so it would seem he's exploiting a loophole in that the money back guarantee is a non binding verbal agreement and the rubes who sign up for his course don't bother to read the contract and see that nowhere is the money back guarantee mentioned in the fine print

is my best guess for how he's able to get away with doing this - perhaps nick willcare to comment about it itt
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03-14-2022 , 02:38 PM
Even though Nick V. should tell the cameraman to tone down the old man creeper vibe, he continues to give the viewers BY FAR the best free poker stream in the country, ainec.

LATB and the Texas poker streams are garbage compared to Hustler’s lineup, action, commentary, graphics, etc..
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03-14-2022 , 02:45 PM
The players are fools for giving him action he is too nitty and he’s a prick when he wins. Unless you have pocket Aces don’t play hands with officer Nic the Nit
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03-14-2022 , 03:05 PM
You’re still a nit
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03-14-2022 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerEthics
Charging too much for a course isnÂ’t exactly a scam. It might not be worth what people paid but buyers have to be ware.

I donÂ’t mean to blame victims but cmon who the f pays $40k for 3 day course or whatever.. the numbers simply donÂ’t add up in my brain. How could you possibly get that much value in 3 days?

Part of the blame is on the greedy people falling for a get rich quick scheme.

Idk.. lawyers and salesmen and a lot of people in real estate are overcharging all day everyday and making a business out of it. It just seems unfair to point out nick. I cringe when I hear OPM.

I also donÂ’t know enough about the BBB or whatever regulates this sort of thing to say how scammy it was. But simply over charging idiots is on par with out maneuvering someone at a poker table. YouÂ’re taking advantage of being smarter than people.

I could be convinced heÂ’s more of a scammer w more details but on the surface heÂ’s just a fish oil salesman at worst and like every other person IÂ’ve ever met in the real estate world at best.
I don't know if Nick's classes are worth 40k or not, though I suspect not. As you said, the numbers don't make much sense.

I disagree with your premise though. There's a point where overcharging for something is a scam. Particularly if you are misrepresenting the value of that thing and using high-pressure sales tactics (I read the Canadian article someone linked, and this seems to be the case. You don't usually have to pressure and manipulate people into taking a great deal).

Sports betting touts are con artists. They know their picks are worthless. They try to trick people into paying for worthless advice. If I trick you or pressure you into buying a car with problems you don't know about for more than it's worth, scam. If I sell you a football autographed by Tom Brady, which happens to be the name of my accountant, that's a scam.

Some responsibility rests with the consumer. Agree with you there. But a lot of people are weak, foolish, desperate, vulnerable or not so sharp in their old age. And a scam is a scam.
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03-14-2022 , 04:50 PM
^ This is a good point. Also part of the point of organizations like BBB and other consumer advocacy/education organizations is to (in theory) prevent people from paying too much for something like this. It's actually the proliferation of people who overcharge, scam, misrepresent, etc that ends up costing everybody money (including other businesses) in order to prevent people who would be easy marks from being taken for a ride. Charging average people 40k for real estate courses clearly qualifies, as there's no way that someone who is entry level in real estate could possibly justify such a course. Perhaps such a price could be worth it for someone at the top level taking advice from someone else at the top level, but that's not what's going on here.
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03-14-2022 , 05:42 PM
@Nick Vertucci, your lawyer didn't leave his details when he called, can you please provide them so I can make contact.

Not posting in this thread again, the only posters left on 2p2 are nit 5NL warriors and incels who spend all day talking about some ugly skeletor looking bit.
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03-14-2022 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Micropunter
Not posting in this thread again, the only posters left on 2p2 are nit 5NL warriors and incels who spend all day talking about some ugly skeletor looking bit.
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03-14-2022 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by #Thinman
also...you're not wesley's dad, stop trying to explain **** to him like he's a 4 year old.
This goes for Garrett too but in a somewhat different way. His first language isn't English, he isn't a ****ing ******.
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03-14-2022 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
Even though Nick V. should tell the cameraman to tone down the old man creeper vibe, he continues to give the viewers BY FAR the best free poker stream in the country, ainec.

LATB and the Texas poker streams are garbage compared to HustlerÂ’s lineup, action, commentary, graphics, etc..
Poker Bunny is on live stream, I gotta go.
Creeper vibe activated.
Camera guy rocks!
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03-15-2022 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerEthics
Ya that changes things a bit.. but people should not expect free rolls ..

Nick what’s your defense for this?
they absolutely should when they're told they're gonna get a freeroll
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03-15-2022 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 411Heelhook
Yo Nick, since you're in the thread, can you tell your camera men to stop following Poker Bunny around all the god damned time?
Shush.
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03-15-2022 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ES2
I don't know if Nick's classes are worth 40k or not, though I suspect not. As you said, the numbers don't make much sense.

I disagree with your premise though. There's a point where overcharging for something is a scam. Particularly if you are misrepresenting the value of that thing and using high-pressure sales tactics (I read the Canadian article someone linked, and this seems to be the case. You don't usually have to pressure and manipulate people into taking a great deal).

Sports betting touts are con artists. They know their picks are worthless. They try to trick people into paying for worthless advice. If I trick you or pressure you into buying a car with problems you don't know about for more than it's worth, scam. If I sell you a football autographed by Tom Brady, which happens to be the name of my accountant, that's a scam.

Some responsibility rests with the consumer. Agree with you there. But a lot of people are weak, foolish, desperate, vulnerable or not so sharp in their old age. And a scam is a scam.
So on 2+2 we use the term ‘scammer’ colloquially. Just so what I say isn’t deemed liable (lmao, Nick you’re an idiot), I’ll just say Nick is a piece of **** who seems to have found a way to make a lot of money off suckers.

Most people, good people, don’t do **** like that. But plenty of people have no moral compunction with that kind of nonsense. They justify it with platitudes like ‘a fool and his money….’ or ‘if it wasn’t me, it’d be someone else.’ I don’t know how they sleep at night, but he’s clearly cut from a different cloth.
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03-15-2022 , 07:38 PM
scammer cloth alert!
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03-15-2022 , 09:31 PM
Hey my name is Carla, Nick is my personal friend. But on table we are NOT friends, we play very hard against each other. I’ve beat him many times at many games … he’s also beat me many times and I’m a pro… He’s definitely not a cheater! I know he’s been studying a lot of poker online lately.. However, he’s a v solid player, opens up when he tilts a lot and needle him. Also very solid person! He has very solid reputation! So sad When people start winning a little they get hated on … He’s a favorite so what do u expect 🌎 whoever made this post make me wanna puke 🤢
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03-15-2022 , 09:45 PM
/thread

thanks new account for clearing that up! the many years of being accused of scamming people with real estate seminars must be due to him recently studying poker online. since you're a personal friend of his we can blindly trust that what you are saying is true.
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03-15-2022 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Catwoman777
Hey my name is Carla, Nick is my personal friend. But on table we are NOT friends, we play very hard against each other. I’ve beat him many times at many games … he’s also beat me many times and I’m a pro… He’s definitely not a cheater! I know he’s been studying a lot of poker online lately.. However, he’s a v solid player, opens up when he tilts a lot and needle him. Also very solid person! He has very solid reputation! So sad When people start winning a little they get hated on … He’s a favorite so what do u expect 🌎 whoever made this post make me wanna puke 🤢
Hi Nick. Listen I never thought you were or are cheating on the stream. You're just a scummy scammer though in real life who duped so many out of their life savings. Plus you play on the stream and pretty much no one wants to see you. You're boring as hell, give no action and as the owner you shouldn't be playing on it. But yeah you are a scumbag scammer Nick.
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03-15-2022 , 11:28 PM
lmfao at the libel/liable thing
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03-15-2022 , 11:31 PM
Liable means when something is "able" to be a "lie"
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