i mean relative to the pot im sure its nothing

Sure, but isn't that the way it is in all big games.

I mean I wanna say they'll be like "Collection pot... $240" so like $50 or so an hour.

I think the streamed games aren’t raked.

Few streams ago Ronnie and another rec player brought up how Nick had been doing very well recently and then joked about if you win a hand vs Nick you won't get invited back so people do notice him winning / playing 'well' at least in context of this game,

I wouldn't assume cheating since he does just play nitty + relatively small amount of hands played in sample but does highlight how the people who run private games benefit while cutting off competition as much as possible and playing in all their own custom soft lineups that they wish to

They're 100% raked, if you watch the steam for more than 40 mins any night you'll see it. They announce "Collection Pot" etc
They either gamble for it, pay it, then the floor comes and takes the money

I thought that was tips for the dealer. That’s why some players like GMan don’t tip after every pot???

If Nick backed into a brick wall his ass would suck out a brick.

Tight...very tight.

There is a huge difference between being part owner of a production company that films poker and someone who is in ownership of the casino it is played in.

Seems like he falls into the former.

The game is regulated and ran by Hustler casino is it not?

If someone thinks he's doing anything underhanded they should ask the casino to take action imo.

Give me a set

Give him a 9

Easy game

Won another $47,000 tonight for those keeping score
Easy game

From watching the stream they collect $235 a half through a timeflop for time collection and tips which is about $26 per player per half or $52 per hour. Which is insane because time on the east coast is around $8-$10 per half in $50-$100 or above. That LA rake will bury you.

Sorry but where do you get this certainty that he isn't selling pieces ? Literally any pro would sell a piece to sit in this game if he was forced to.

Forgot to add that he obviously had the lowest VPIP at 17%. Again, if this was a random player who played 14-17% VPIP nightly he wouldn’t be invited back, just the facts. Plays vs splashy 40% VPIP “rich guys”

You’re referring to Garrett? I don’t know with absolute certainty, and IF Nick is demanding he wets his beak on Garrett playing… I mean I guess. I think that’s like a .0001% chance. Garrett says he plays once a week, I’m not sure he needs to sell pieces/make concessions.

Rake isn't that high. If they're collecting $235 then most of that is going to tip.

only you are. nobody cares.

It's a freaking joke. Dude hardly plays a hand, is so damn boring for the game and because he owns the stream he can sit in a game filled with wild players who play any 2 cards. So Vertucci just sits there and waits for premiums and exploits all these purposely chosen loose players. In all honesty imo this is like another scam. He would never be invited if he wasn't the owner, he gives no action but demands a seat at the table 3 times a week.

And don't get me started about the conflict of interest as well.

Well I mean there’s a thread on the topic, which you’re posting in, sooooooooooo

Hello,

My OP is 100% false and I apologise for any inconvenience caused to Nick Vertucci.

Ecb for someone who hates the owners and says they have lost you as a viewer you seem to watch a lot of the action.
We know your stand but ffs get a life as I watch and enjoy most of the shows.

Why so much hate as we are only here on earth to eat, **** & die. Laugh a little ask mum to take you for a walk as it is a big bad world just enjoy.

Yep, let's put an end to the Garrett selling idea .. not happening unless he's putting on one hell of an act of independence for years.

1) Ryan choose to leave/was put out by LAB
2) Players not happy Ryan is on the outs
3) Player with lots of money teams up with Ryan at rival casino
4) Player wants to be Player/Owner .. assumed that Ryan and he discussed or that Player 'don't give a hoot' what others think

Ala Molly's Game .. the 'home game' has now moved locations
Ala Molly's Game .. Should Molly (Ryan) speak up too much about criss-cross it could end up being a problem

I play in plenty of home games where the host sits in the game and while jokes about 'rake back' are in play I've never felt an ounce of issue between the Players and host 'in the game'. As I stated earlier, the think most hosts play tighter in their own games although not necessary.

As stated above, Nick's sweats are real. Unless he's a great actor these are bankroll affecting cards coming out on the felt. Who knows what's going on off stream. Nick is by no way only playing on stream and you hear tidbits about it on air.

Now that they are into this for some time they are seeing the true 'income' that they will be receiving to survive. Ryan needs some income and I'm sure Nick doesn't want to put all this effort into a venture with no return .. or have to dump money into it to keep it going. The casino has to be in on the program as well somehow .. that's a lot of floor space that's not gaming anymore. GL

This was many years ago but I made it about 85k hands into a 100k hand prop bet to never have a losing session online. I only lost because of a personal **** up, nothing to do with inability.

Online would be harder than that game, even 15 years ago.

I know of at least one other person who managed to pull it off privately.

Basically, the VPIP tables show you whats going on.

The best is when the owner or gamerunner plays in the game and has endless access to the chips..,

One of my fondest poker memoriesÂ…

A buddy and me went to the city one day to get some fresh herbal essence. We decided to give an old games number a ring to see if anything was running. It was early afternoon so we knew it was a long shot.

Well the owner says come by and itÂ’s about an hour or two before they normally start. So me, my buddy and the two owners and maybe 1 other player start the game.

The owner kept reloading 7,7,7,7,7Â…

My buddy had a chip tower and I had won a couple K.

The game ends up just dying and we leave the most profitable hourly situation IÂ’ve ever seen.

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As far as vertucci is concerned. I think the whole point of him moving venues was to team up w Ryan and run their little private game invite only. If you have a problem with this then you should probably try to do the same.

I do agree vertucci is nitting it up. But I disagree about there being a conflict of interest unless heÂ’s making rulings or raking the pot.

It sounds like sour grapes like why didnÂ’t I think of that.

Also comparatively to gal running a slot parlor out of his house nicks real estate scam seems kinda harmless.

https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...tm_name=iossmf Thread about his 2022 results where he is crushing.

From earlier, I could have sworn LATB wasn’t raked but maybe the Hustler game is. Unlike LATB which was free at first watch but cost to watch at any other time, the hustler games are all available on YT so I guess it’s a different model.

I always give ppl the benefit of the doubt and there is no evidence that NV is cheating that I have seen presented. But one of the rules he is making is that you have to show your cards via RFID to Nick's employee in the production room. I have no idea what control measures they have in place but that seems slightly relevant to me. So to say there are no conflicts of interest with the owner of the stream playing seems incorrect to me.