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dude will never come back to this thread. he's a MAGAt. he's not going to be in a conversation that he cannot control or shutdown. it was funny watching him in the game that he knows most everyone will call him out on his bullshit in. he regressed quickly into his 'they are out to get me, i can do no right' schtick instead of the usual 2 hour head massage

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03-29-2022 , 12:03 AM

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kiddo1987

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Originally Posted by #Thinman

that was so bizarre when he was in here replying to everyone almost the same way .. just get a weird feeling about him

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03-29-2022 , 12:04 AM

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Ifloppedthenuts

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Nicks a punk

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03-29-2022 , 12:44 AM

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EastCoastBalla

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Originally Posted by kiddo1987

that was so bizarre when he was in here replying to everyone almost the same way .. just get a weird feeling about him

We got to witness the real Nick for a good 24 hours, him coming on here threatening people and denying everything and just giving off a roid rage vibe. Dude knows he is a scammer of the worst kind, scamming vets out of their life savings and many others. But what gets me is his arrogance about it.

How ironic that 2 major scammers, Matusow and Vertucci are vehemently defended by Ryan Feldman. Funny, Feldman has been MIA in this thread and the MM thread for weeks now. Hard to keep defending the indefensible.

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03-29-2022 , 05:25 AM

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Dream Crusher

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He seemed pretty nice.

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03-29-2022 , 11:02 AM

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NickelCityLaw

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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw

Try to prove that a single anonymous post on a message board is libel. I would love to see that play out in court. What sort of damages would Nick be seeking? How would he prove that this person had the intent to mislead the public? How would he prove his business was damaged in any way?

If I got such a phone call I would tell nick to f off.

Your questions are irrelevant because when you defame someone by calling them a "convicted felon" and a "scam artist" it's libel per se...meaning you don't have to prove intent or actual damages. And yes California would be the venue since Nick resides there and that's where his business is based.

California law has a broad definition of “per se” defamation. It consists of anything that is damaging on its face without further explanation.
Most “per se” cases occur when someone falsely accuses another person of having committed a crime or being unfit to practice the person’s trade, business, or profession.
the publication, or defamatory statement in question, is considered so damaging that the plaintiff is entitled to sue without having to prove actual damages. Such statements constitute defamation per se under California law.

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03-29-2022 , 01:44 PM

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NJPW

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Good luck to Nick proving "liable". That really says all you need to know about him. A dumb angry old man.

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03-29-2022 , 03:28 PM

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checkraisdraw

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Originally Posted by NickelCityLaw

Nice try. Nick is a public figure so the standards against him for libel is much higher in California.

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As with any personal injury in California, the defendant must have acted with a degree of legal culpability for the plaintiff to be entitled to damages. However, the level of culpability required in a California defamation case depends on whether the plaintiff is a public or private figure.

When the plaintiff is a private individual, he or she is only required to prove that the defendant was negligent in making a defamatory statement.

A public figure, however, must prove affirmatively that a statement was false. He or she must also prove “actual malice.” This means that the defendant made the defamatory statement either with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard for the truth.

It’s probably not possible to prove malice in this case since stupidity would be a defense.

https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/persona...amation/#2.5.1

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03-29-2022 , 03:37 PM

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Ifloppedthenuts

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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw

Nice try. Nick is a public figure so the standards against him for libel is much higher in California.

It’s probably not possible to prove malice in this case since stupidity would be a defense.

https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/persona...amation/#2.5.1

This is how Nick talks lol

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03-29-2022 , 04:07 PM

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NickelCityLaw

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LMAO... he's not even close to being a public figure..the fact that he was actually posting ITT is proof he is not one......Where did you study law? facebook university?

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03-29-2022 , 04:20 PM

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checkraisdraw

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I mean no one is talking about his personal life, we’re talking about his business dealings and his poker career. He is an owner of HCL, and has access to a bunch of poker media figures. He regularly makes commentary on these topics, including in this thread. It’s not like he’s some unknown poker player who keeps to themselves. He put himself in the spotlight intentionally.

Also kind of weird, are you a lawyer yourself? If not I don’t see how either of our qualifications are relevant.

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03-29-2022 , 05:06 PM

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NickelCityLaw

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Yeah those are good points...I looked at some of the cases and it probably could go either way as to whether he is a public figure. But you are right, in general the courts love to dismiss defamation cases...just ask Sarah Palin..

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04-02-2022 , 01:15 AM

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EastCoastBalla

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It's so ridiculous, dude Nick sits tonight in the Friday big game is up 40k or so, played literally like 7 hands maybe? His VPIP was like 11%

Takes a seat from someone who would almost definitely give more action, nobody i mean nobody wants to watch that scam artist play on the stream. What a joke.

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04-02-2022 , 01:18 AM

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Ifloppedthenuts

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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla

All the sniffing and coughing he does lol I hate Nick so much he’s just disgusting. He thinks he’s so cool lol Ryan don’t need him.

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04-02-2022 , 01:34 AM

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borg23

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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla

It also seemed pretty obvious to me in the hand where he had 1010 vs garrets 45s on the 467 flop garret took a line he wouldn't take against other players. They're not colluding in any way, but Garret took a super passive line because he wants to keep playing in the game.

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04-02-2022 , 01:44 AM

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EastCoastBalla

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Agree borg, I have noticed that when those 2 are in a hand heads up the pots seem a little "smaller" than imo it would be for some others against Nick.

Garrett ain't no dummy. He's colluding without actually colluding if that makes any sense. No sense taking tons of money off the owner of the stream right?

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04-02-2022 , 01:45 AM

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borg23

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Exactly. It's good for business but pretty obvious.

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04-02-2022 , 01:47 AM

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Ifloppedthenuts

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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla

**** Nick I hate him with a passion

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04-02-2022 , 02:16 AM

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EastCoastBalla

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Nick's final VPIP 13%

He offers absolutely nothing to the stream. If Hustler cared about ethics they wouldn't allow him to play. Such a slimeball.

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04-02-2022 , 02:18 AM

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Joe-exotic69

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his vpip was 9% tonight and pfr 5%...so disgustiing.

my bad he was 13/9, still disgusting

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04-02-2022 , 07:51 AM

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PokerEthics

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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla

Nick's final VPIP 13%

He offers absolutely nothing to the stream. If Hustler cared about ethics they wouldn't allow him to play. Such a slimeball.

It might be bad for steam to be such a nit but I’m failing to see why it’s at all unethical… unless he’s soft playing GA

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04-02-2022 , 12:33 PM

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JERRYJ0NES

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Is Nick single handedly keeping just for men in business? Your beard is weird. Is there anything more pathetic than a grown man dying away gray hair?

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04-02-2022 , 01:39 PM

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Goldfish24

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Never liked Nick the Nit Douche! This guy is an arrogant 2 face scammer. He did more harm to game of poker than good. Anybody who s a grinder would punch this idiot righ t in the face. Can't stand his condescending remarks he makes on table or on air. He is a fraud.