Exactly what I was trying to say. The same goes for every part of the body fundamental to this challenge. The difference between 16 and 40 is far from slight.

Is there a website that keeps track of prop bets wins and losses and whatnot?

Huck has broke 5:30 and it was within the last week. I have on good authority his recent time was just over 5 minutes. Probably needs to take off another 30 to 40 seconds. Doable IMO.

Look. Lets face it, this will not happen. I am a 38 year old ex middle distance runner, with world class times (4.08) in the under 18 bracket. I have kept myself healthy and (apart from being a little too tall at 6ft) have the history to prove that I would be exactly the right type of person for this. I also have the the genetics with a competitive middle distance runner father and a mother who was a high jump champion. But would I take it on, nope. Couldn't do it frankly!

If Huck seed, at 40 years old, 6'7 tall, and without a solid middle distance background is really going to try this. Then I will give him action on it and be sure my money is safe.

Do you have any clue how much 40 seconds is over a mile?

he can break 5:25 right now?!? this is a guarantee.

his brother's pr in the mile is 4:06 and huck is a much better athlete and possibly a better runner than his brother.

don't underestimate his athleticism either. he was a great basketball player and is really fit right now. he eats almost perfectly and has kept his weight really low over the last year.

i am sure he is about a 20 to 1 dog on this bet but that seems like a pretty good price to me. plus i am sure he enjoys the challenge of this type of thing. i will be rooting for him. it isn't nearly as far fetched as some of you think i promise you that.

to run 4:39, he would have to do some very hard training. He'll need to do mileage of over 70 miles a week, long runs of over 12 miles, speed workouts of 10 x 400 meters in 69 seconds each, hard 3 mile runs in under 17 minutes and so forth. Some body part in the legs of a 40 year old 6'7" body will probably break down before he reaches his goal. There is a major loss of resiliency in the joints and muscles when you go from age 20 to 40.

do you still wear your varsity jacket too?

I started cross country running 6 years before the 4:32 but was 9 months of the year for 4 years prior to my 4:32

Obviously a lot of this bet has to do with his talent/gentetics or whatever. If his brother really has run 4:06 and Huck has a history of playing basketball then I think maybe its a little bit more realistic but still not great.

I mean at 23 if I was given those odds to run that time I'm positive I could do it but thats because of my history. 40 is a whole different story.

Nahh, but I do wear my wife's dresses when she isn't looking... shh, don't tell her.

I just looked up Leif Seed, his brother. The guy is a pretty amazing athlete. In additon to running 1:50 for the 800, I found a results page for an MIT track meet where he competed and placed in the most bizarre combination of events I have ever seen:
http://web.mit.edu/hwtaylor/mtfxc/ou...97RPI.RES.HTML

He placed in the:
400 hurdles--58.6
3000 steeplechase--9:27
triple jump--38'
high jump--5'10"

Maybe these guys have great genetics. Maybe Huck has a chance...

http://www.world-masters-athletics.o...tdoor_m.phpMen Outdoor 1 Mile

(Last update: 29 December 2008 )
Age group Mark Name Country Age Meet Date Meet Location
M 35 3:52.48 John Walker NZL 36 02.07.88
M 40 4:02.53 David Moorcroft GBR 40 19.06.93
M 45 4:16.09 Tony Young USA 46 31.05.08 Gresham
M 50 4:27.9 Nolan Shaheed USA 50 12.02.00
M 55 4:40.4 Jack Ryan AUS 55 15.12.77
M 60 4:54.07 Joop Ruter NED 60 01.08.93
M 65 4:56.4 Derek Turnbull NZL 65 29.02.92
M 70 5:23.58 Siem Herlaar NED 70 16.07.99
M 75 5:41.80 Ed Whitlock CAN 75 28.07.06 Windsor
M 80 7:09.60 Joseph King USA 82 02.08.08 Eugene
M 85 8:04.7 Josef Galia GER 87 04.09.85
M 90 10:30.9 Peter Brownbill AUS 90 18.06.08 Melbourne
M 95 14:48.2 Herb Kirk USA 95 06.10.90


I think Huck can do it.. 40 doesn't seem to be too old if he has the right genetics and drive which he probable does.

1.50 for 800 metres is superb. I couldn't get past 1.52 even at my best.

I am pretty sure the heart attack/stroke would dq him

I could cite all my running accomplishments to preface my opinion, but all I will say is that I know a lot about running, and it is highly unlikely Huck can do this.

I ran 4:31.9 for 1600m when I was 15. I think it is still the freshman record at my high school. I was physically mature for my age. At 40, he has virtually no shot.

Jesus this is so ridiculous,he has absolutely zero shot of even coming close.

The man is 40 years old,and presumably hasnt had any training for 20 years if at all.LOL at the "it might actually help him" comment in regards to the training.Yeah,sure it will.

I dont care if he had the genetics of God,this is impossible.

People act like he can just "whip himself into shape" in 9 months, and bust out a record setting mile for the top .0000001 of all human beings....yeah,RIGHT.

I assume you are referencing me. I was simply trying to demonstrate the extreme difficulty this challenge would create for someone with a strong history in that area, let alone someone without a strong history in that area.

Oh, and for the record, I was not trying to show off. If this was a discussion about plumbing or something, then someone might come along with an opinion and validate it with the fact that there are a plumber with specific experience in whatever was being discussed. I was simply doing the same. Giving my opinion and validating it with my own experiences.

Well I am a plumber and I don't think Huck can do this either. So theres some extra validation right there. But Huck does have a lot of gamble and for 33-1 he might as well try.

No, I wasn't referencing anyone. I was a very accomplished runner when I was younger, and I started writing down my history to perhaps give my opinion more validity, but it felt very self-glorifying, so I deleted it. I agree with you, and I think only people who have run at high levels understand how hard this would be for Huck.

I don't ever like to say never though, which I why in my original post I left it at "highly unlikely"

Fair enough

For my part a simply slip on an icy kerb ended what was a promising running career, and I hardly ever get to 'talk shop', so I am enjoying this thread.

Hell. List your accomplishments, at least the ones that matter. I mentioned my mile time because it was relevant to the thread and to my opinion, but I wouldn't blame anyone for listing their 400 metres and so on (mine was 55 )

I go slightly further than you, for me its not 'highly likely', it's, 'not in a million years'!

I think people are underestimating two things. First of all, by all accounts Seed is a world class athlete. Second of all from what I know he keeps himself in excellent condition. Given that he tends to win these prop bets I am guessing that its certainly in the realm of possibility that he can do this.

give your head a shake... "a world class athlete" LOLOLOLOL

i would bet against the majority of PROFESSIONAL basketball, baseball, football and a good chunk of soccer players (i am a soccer player, played at the highest level for 7 years) and my BEST time in the mile i Just under 5
ANYONE who really knows what it takes to run the mile in that sort of time would easily agree with me, the rest of you, simply just dont understand

i would bet everything i own that he can not achieve this. even if he was coached and went through a strict training regime

I have run 4:20 in the full mile before, so coming from a very experienced distance runner, there is no possibility he will accomplish this. I would be everything I own and take out a loan to bet more.

A 4:39 is a decent mile for a high school senior, although not really competitive at least in California. However, the % of milers who can run this in high school is probably <12%. At his age, he cannot do this.

Vinnie Jones is right.