Thanks Howard for confirming what we all knew to be true already, that you just did that interview so you would feel a little better about returning to the community, regardless of how everyone else feels about it. You're a scumbag and it's obvious you don't care about anyone other than yourself.

What a truly despicable person.

They are all scumbags. They have gambled with worse people than Howard for their whole lives, convicted and not.

Welcome to the world of Professional Gambling, we hope you find it more interesting than your previous homes at World of Warcraft, Magic the Gathering, and the Sigma Nu House.

Its great to see Lederer in Bobbies room!!!

The modern day heros built and got very rich off a game built around Jimmy Chagra in the late seventies/early eighties. Chip Reese, Doyle Brunson, Billy Baxter, Jack Strauss got rich off these games.

Mr. Chagra, while a very engaging charachter, ran what the Federal Government described as the largest Narcotics operation in the Southwest. He is suspected to be directly resposnible for the murder of countless enemies, and indirectly responsible for the deaths of how many of his customers. Not to mention the damage his illegal activities did to society

He is also suspected of contracting the murder of Federal Judge John Wood from the coffee shop at the Horshoe. Interestingly, actor Woody Harrelson's father, Charles, a well known high stakes poker player and all around dirtbag, was convicted of this crime and died in Jail.

Mr. Chagra was welcomed with open arms by his old friends when he returned to Las Vegas in 2007, after being released from prison.

These are the kind of guys the "poker icons' are. Do you really think they care if Howard or Russ H. Scammed some faceless strangers out of some $$$$$$ with their computers? No one has even died, let alone assasinated a Federal Official yet. This is a very tame crime by old school poker standards, lol.

lol needs more love

I posted a question, should all convicted thieves be shunned by the community, he choose to respond with an insult then complains no one does anything about it w/o saying if he does anything about it. Devilfish is one of many convicted thieves, drug dealers, armed robbers that play poker yet somehow Lederer should not be allowed to play poker?

My point was so what if Howard is playing, he's been convicted by a mob of poker players but until he's convicted in a court he's innocent whether u like it or not. Even if convicted is what he has done worse than armed robbery? Dealing drugs to kids?

Also who does anything but moan about players excessive tanking?
Who does anything but moan about about Harrahs taking 3rd place money in every WSOP event? etc etc
Many of the Lederer's lynch mob are in other threads praising Hellmouth for his tournament win and quite happy that he has never spoken about representing a poker site that cheated everyone.

There are many corrupt people playing poker, it's part of the game, deal with it just stop moaning ffs.

yup yup I hope his wife doesnt speed in the masserati, and the daughter doesnt drive the rs8 drunk while they travel across nevada to check if all is good at the 7 family mansions.

Your are right if anything they are just "pissed" that they didn't get invited into the FTP gravy train.

most of them didn't steal directly from the poker community and on a very large scale. its not like its a moral crusade. its people hating someone that stole their money. its not really very difficult to understand...

It's not very difficult to understand that they are all getting paid back either

not because of him, and it doesn't change what he did.

if some ******* smashed up my car with a golf club i wouldn't be cool with him just because my insurance covered it.

I don't think Howard has 7 mansions I am pretty sure you can't confirm this. So you are being sarcastic we get it but in reality there aren't many good people in poker and that is a fact. Poker is filled with the worst kind of people in our society so people can pick on Howard all they want but there a lot of online poker regs who are scum also. I seriously doubt that 20% of players that play poker are good people.

You don't know what he did, nor do I. He says he's innocent, a poker news interview isn't enough to convict him.

listen to the beginning part of the 2+2 interview. he admits plainly himself that he kept and will keep millions paid in error to him and that his reason for doing so was that no one else was giving theirs back either. its not vague at all.

Meh i really don't care enough to listen to any more interviews about it though I am surprise he admitted to being paid millions in error and is keeping it but still no worse than any of the bankers that caused the world's financial crisis and certainly a few of those were playing at this years WSOP without incident.

well if your point is that scumbags don't always get what they deserve, congratulations on pointing out what everyone already knows.

if your point is that we shouldn't care what happens to scumbag howard because other scumbags get away with things too, you should just gtfo.

also, it doesn't sound like you listened to any of the interviews in the first place. howard and others kept a ton of money that wasn't theirs to begin with, which didn't exactly make ftp an easier sell. luckily for players stars wanted it bad enough, but it sold despite of howard and co, not because of.

The Pwofessa.

Yeah your right, i fell asleep in the bit where Howard jumped up and shouted "I'M GUILTY, I STOLE EVERYTHING IT'S ALL MY FAULT".I'm sure i woke up in time for Howard to say he helped get Stars/Tilt deal done.

Was Howard not entitled to take dividends out of FT as a shareholder of a successful business?

they weren't successful at that point, which is why payments were coming out of player funds, hence "paid in error". howard claims that he didn't know at the time, but also plainly admits to never giving any of that money back and states as his reasoning that no one else was either.

if you don't want to actually read about or listen to these things yourself, that's fine, but you should probably stop trying to argue about it when you haven't been paying any attention and have no idea wtf you're talking about.

He is clearly trolling at this point...it's impossible that someone with that logic exists.