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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
The idea is not a troll.
Of course I understand games get harder higher up and have acknowledged/addressed this multiple times ITT.
Anyone else noticed that everything seems to be black and white, brilliant idea or dumb idea, genius or idiot, in the eyes of a huge number of poker players generally. And the better someone is at cards (lol) the more certain they are of their superiority, and the more the poker sheeple believe them.
This is not normal. Non poker players as a generalisation tend to take a much more balanced and open minded view on things.
I mean, I think you're highly entertaining generally, I think people take you way more seriously than you are being and you seem to be able to rattle people up, lovely
The reason why I assumed you had to be trolling here most of the thread is that the idea has one huge flaw. This flaw is that the players won't win, so by pooling all their money they will just lose it. There is a reasonable chance that one of the guys in the pool has what it takes to beat 10x higher stakes but I'd say its pretty much impossible that more than 2/10 could.
The other flaw is that you'd have to distribute the profits (not that there would be any) based on volume contribution (either hours played or hands played) guys in the same time zone would have to alternate etc and you'd have to make sure everyone had the equal chance to contribute the volume. This is straightforward with 2 people, a bit tougher with 3, really really hard with 4 and close to impossible with 5. What if someone is ready to play for example but its not their turn, can they play on the side? Doing this with people who implicitly trust each other would be possible, with people who don't know each other too well...impossible, seriously.
The final major flaw is motivation, the only way this could possibly work is if all the players have very similar levels of ability, otherwise, the people with the better ability would have no motivation to share their knowledge as they are just giving EV away and not really getting anything for it...just shot taking at a stake they have no winning history at sharing action with people that have inferior ability to them.
So in short, you'd need;
a) 6-10 players with similar levels of ability
b) 6-10 players with similar levels of ability that all trust each other
c) 6-10 players with similar levels of ability that all trust each other who are happy to risk large %'s of their bankroll on a shot take
d) 6-10 player with similar levels of ability that all trust each other who are happy to risk large %'s of their bankroll on a shot take and have similar work ethics and fluid schedules
and once you have all that, which is actually close to impossible to get, then you'd still be a massive favourite to lose all the money, as they have no winning history at those stakes and most likely they will get beat.
This has been said 100 times and your response to it is "this has been acknowledged" like its a minor blip to the plan, whereas basically what it shows is that, the plan can't work without answers to these points, which you don't have...but continue to say it's still a good plan. For this reason, it was pretty obvious you were trolling most of the last 2 pages
Also in regards to comments about poker players and their dismissal of ideas - I am not a poker player, and am dismissing your idea - so it's not just poker players!!
I think it's very common to find people who excel in one area of life are overly confident, with no justification, about their abilities in others, and that's certainly true of some poker players and certainly true of high level performers in other fields. At the same time, you often find successful people who are very humble about their abilities when they'd be perfectly justified to be way more aggressive about their opinions. I think it's down to the individual, and whereas poker being a self-made pursuit probably encourages it slightly more than some other industries I think it's certainly more of a trait of the person, rather than their vocation.