how is sharkscope able to get so much data of every site updated 24 hours a day and within half an hour of tournament getting over it updates, even though some sites have provisions so that no HH comes out.

Also it surpasses jurisdictions and localized regions and some regions do not allow access to foreign players or accounts.

Manual updation of the data seems impossible, there are no errors too, every data is perfect. ???

Does PTR still exist and for select few???

I imagine it's a result of simple data mining...

russian ptr

iz secrets tho

how is simple data mining possible when sites have taken so much provisions to avoid giving any hh or tournament history to the general public. Even if you watch any poker table no hh is saved.

Apart from that we are talking over 50 sites, getting and storing stats for over a million players, accurately round the clock every 30 mins, that would need a workforce of at least 500 people, having access to every site, monitoring round the clock and manually entering data, working on all holidays and Sunday,

as at some sites the data is gone after a few hours, now to accurately get all that data is a herculean task, looks simple data mining but is actually quite im practical, unfeasible.

All this makes me wonder .. now you would all laugh at this idea,

what I mean to say is that the nexus exists, all the poker hands are dealt from one large super server to all the sites around the world. That is how all the cash game hands of all sites were accessible by the PTR.

No other way seems plausible, this central super server throws out to all the sites dictated hands.... period.

You're either on to something, or you're on something. I'm gonna go with the latter.
LOL at "workforce of 500 people". Have you not heard of automation?

I'm by no means a data analytics or data mining expert. But I'm pretty sure there are multiple programming languages that can literally automate these processes, and a million players data is hardly anything when you are talking about the size of this data. Think about all the trading in the stock market processing hundreds or thousands of trades per second based on a trading algorithm. One of the main reason wall street has eliminated so many Trading positions.

There aren't people pulling player data manually, I can guarantee you that.

hah automation, just try adda, and see the site's interface, there is no HH provided, or see spartan site, within few hours all data vanishes, if I even try to copy paste data in excel I can't because there is no such facility...

only option that remains is manual typing,

no Automation is possible here because the sites have measures to prevent any data leaking to the mere mortals.

after coding for 20 years, I can say for sure no programming language can grab that data,

they mention that within few minutes data is grabbed. I could not find any information about who owns Sharkscope, who started it, how from 2005 they have 99percent coverage, why no other company is able to come in the market and do what they are doing, they are just able to have a total and absolute monopoly in this business....

5k limit. Untracked euro.

Russians, stay out the way . . .

Sigh. Why would HH’s be needed for results? Most sites post the results of STT and MTT immediately. Also, some sites provide this info willingly with direct access and others require super duper easy scraping.

Shhh! If we tell you more secrets, then we will have to....you know.

My guess is they've evolved to screen reading software, starting 5-7 years ago, around the time different sites started withholding more and more info to be anti mining.

Also this.

On most sites it seems you can just onen tourney lobbies and they probably have some sort of scanner for that. Doesn't sound too hard.

https://youtu.be/4HgUh5bOgbM?t=3m14s

LOL

i guess you spent 20 years very well sir

Hand histories aren't the data that's needed. An automated data collection system needs access to the tournament lobbies. Each tournament entry is listed along with the dollar amounts they did or did not make.

I play on 888/NJ (and before that WSOP/NV) from Delaware, and see my tournament record updated within five minutes of the end of every mtt or sng I enter.

how do they know how many times a player rebuys or adds on, as this isn't shown AFAIK on sites like global?

Thank you.

I've been out of the online scene since, oh, April 2011, and the OP's numerous posts made me wonder if Sharkscope had taken a few huge leaps forward in what info it offered. Back when I used it frequently, there was no HH info on there in any way, just tourney results.

i.e. nothing to see here, moving on.