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11-06-2019 , 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BeHumble!
Sure, but he should out himself as well. And he should not be applauded until he does so. Instead he's taken the route of the SNITCH (guy above me probably has no idea what my definition of snitching is). Someone who does the crime but ends up having to do zero of the time by selling out his friends/partners/comrades; that is what he is attempting to do. It's hard to be a worse person than the ones doing the cheating, but that behavior in my mind certainly makes him worse. You want to take the high ground now? Out yourself.
Your view is pretty ridiculous if you ask me. In any event, you have expressed it now multiple times.

Please let the thread play out without harping on your narrow view of how terrible OP is for bringing this info to the community.
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11-06-2019 , 03:54 AM
This is like groundbreaking level cheating and you idiots are debating whether not this guy is a snitch and the morals of whether or not he is. Can we stay on topic please?
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11-06-2019 , 04:30 AM
Some comments in this thread remind of tactics used by russian troll farms.
Either way, anyone has a suggestions what can people of 2p2 do about operations like this one and the one mentioned in "botfarm" thread ?
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11-06-2019 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DrDanimal
This is like groundbreaking level cheating and you idiots are debating whether not this guy is a snitch and the morals of whether or not he is. Can we stay on topic please?
It’s not fair to lump those lining up against BeHumble’s laughable viewpoint into the “idiots” category. It needs to be made clear that his views are shared by very few thinking people, if anyone. It’s unfortunate that the thread has to take a slight derail in doing so, but it’s important. It’s also worthwhile pointing out the courage it took for OP to post this.
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11-06-2019 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DrDanimal
groundbreaking level cheating
groundbreaking ... really?

the 2 devices solution has been discussed for years (and is pretty much the most obvious next step).

not saying thread isn't important or OP doesn't deserve credit for coming forward, but the actual reaction should be, 'why OP is sharing this', rather than 'zomg there are cheaters out there'.
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11-06-2019 , 06:07 AM
I have played roughly 300 HUSNG's on 888 at $200/500/1k bi. I immediately recognized the sn's SweatshopSN and 5Choveka and had definitely played them both.

If my memory is correct Sweatshop was holding the HU lobbies at 500 and 1k as long as a year ago. Went and checked sharkscope:



I'm not putting this as proof of anything. Obviously these nothing sample sizes in a super swingy format don't mean anything; just thought it was interesting that the SN I am by far the biggest loser against in the format is on the list.
For what its worth I am $800 winner against 5Choveka in 12 games.

WHat are the chances of getting refund from 888 should this prove to be substantiated?
(seems pretty clear from the video but who knows.)

OP thanks for posting.
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11-06-2019 , 06:34 AM
It's a pretty safe assumption that anyone holding the higher stakes lobbies on ANY site is using software to aid them. Come on guys let's be real. They can give whatever fake ass excuses on how they are just really good poker players who study hard but HUSNG have been solved for years
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11-06-2019 , 09:39 AM
Saw this thread yesterday and immediatly checked 888poker lobby. Schoveka (not 5Choveka), but from Malta, was still playing the $200/500/1k.
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11-06-2019 , 09:51 AM
lol @ playing 20bb online poker for serious sums in 2019. That format has been solved and dead for years. This is nothing new. Anyone who doesn't use RTA is just asking to get fleeced.

Honestly I don't even get why sites still keep this solved short stack trash on their sites. Does nothing but attract the worst scum. Imo there's only 2 options for formats like Hypers and Spins going forward. Either remove them entirely or raise the rake so much that they are unbeatable even with perfect strategy. This way at least recs who enjoy fast formats can still play them.
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11-06-2019 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DrDanimal
This is like groundbreaking level cheating and you idiots are debating whether not this guy is a snitch and the morals of whether or not he is. Can we stay on topic please?
+1 and although I do not play these stakes or HU poker, I find this totally disgusting and I am "happy" that OP came forward with everything that he/she posted.

Scary to see what is becoming/or has become for most of online poker.

Sick.
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11-06-2019 , 10:41 AM
Remember when the cartels used the "its just a big chart" defense?

I thought I'd seen it all until people were publicly defending their own collusion and cheating.
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11-06-2019 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mantecaa
I have played roughly 300 HUSNG's on 888 at $200/500/1k bi. I immediately recognized the sn's SweatshopSN and 5Choveka and had definitely played them both.

If my memory is correct Sweatshop was holding the HU lobbies at 500 and 1k as long as a year ago. Went and checked sharkscope:



I'm not putting this as proof of anything. Obviously these nothing sample sizes in a super swingy format don't mean anything; just thought it was interesting that the SN I am by far the biggest loser against in the format is on the list.
For what its worth I am $800 winner against 5Choveka in 12 games.

WHat are the chances of getting refund from 888 should this prove to be substantiated?
(seems pretty clear from the video but who knows.)

OP thanks for posting.
Why do you consistently keep playing against Sweatshop when he continually beats you?
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11-06-2019 , 11:00 AM
following
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11-06-2019 , 11:01 AM
these videos/convos are from 2017 and yet people think top cash regs don't/can't cheat lmao
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11-06-2019 , 11:18 AM
the sites should work together and bring these criminals to court.

thank god pokerstars is competent, no human play $100+ hypers on ipoker/888, absolutely no game security.
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11-06-2019 , 11:51 AM
Fwiw, 5choveka/xrab aka "Ivan X" is a well known old school black member on pokerstrategy. His IRL identity is known and I'm surprised he is so careless with his screen names, if its actually him doing these things, but it does seem that way. He has a nice exotic beach picture from 2018 on his FB page. I believe BPC coaching also had some issues with this guy from the past. I'm told he is allegedly banned on PS.

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11-06-2019 , 11:57 AM
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing. And surprised this isn't happening more.
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11-06-2019 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BeHumble!
More like disgruntled cheat that is trying to stay anonymous. Why did he white out all identifying markers of himself? He actively cheated. He actively helped them increase their cheating capabilities. He's banking on these guys not being able to defend themselves because they are clearly guilty, thus his credibility will never be brought into play, thus he can stay in the shadows. Cheating scumbag that backstabbed his friends, prob over a disagreement of the money that they were stealing not being cut up right, worst kind of human.

Actually that is the best possible cheater out there.

You would like those cheaters to keep robbing inoccent people right ?
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11-06-2019 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDanimal
This is like groundbreaking level cheating and you idiots are debating whether not this guy is a snitch and the morals of whether or not he is. Can we stay on topic please?
Whats even more funny is that people would do this even if he would have robbed his own country for 10000000000000 euros.

We are such an intelligent race
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11-06-2019 , 01:14 PM
If anyone continues to play online poker after watching that video then you have nobody to blame for losses but yourself.
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11-06-2019 , 01:21 PM
Haley Hintze covered it for VegasSlotsOnline news
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11-06-2019 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay Why
Why do you consistently keep playing against Sweatshop when he continually beats you?
Yep 35 game sample in hu sng is clear evidence you cant beat this guy. why would you keep playing him?

Spoiler:
Kappa
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11-06-2019 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NerdSuperfly
groundbreaking ... really?

the 2 devices solution has been discussed for years (and is pretty much the most obvious next step).

not saying thread isn't important or OP doesn't deserve credit for coming forward, but the actual reaction should be, 'why OP is sharing this', rather than 'zomg there are cheaters out there'.
I think more important than why is, what can be done about it? Not only for the specific players in this case, but as a whole.
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11-06-2019 , 02:46 PM
What do the sites this is being used on have to say about the video?
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11-06-2019 , 02:57 PM
Didn't read every post in this thread, but wouldn't Stars "360 degree webcam" test requirement be able to pick up on this type of cheating?

I know the video isn't Stars, but just mentioning this as a possible way to combat this type of cheating.
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