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Old 06-11-2012, 05:02 AM   #226
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Re: How does Andy Frankenberger do it?

Probably already mentioned but winning 3 flips in a row plus AA<AK AIPF usually works
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:05 AM   #227
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Re: How does Andy Frankenberger do it?

I am starting to wonder at what point some of you guys would accept that whilst unconventional Frankenburger may just have a clue. I'm not saying he has or he hasn't, I'm just curious what it would take for him to overcome the initial impression he has formed.

For sure you can still mark him down as a luckbox but we seem to be rapidly reaching a point where "variance lol" will not really cut it.
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:11 AM   #228
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Re: How does Andy Frankenberger do it?

This is beyond fairy tale - it's inconceivable.
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:12 AM   #229
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This is beyond fairy tale - it's inconceivable.
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:21 AM   #230
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Re: How does Andy Frankenberger do it?

Same could be asked of Michael "the grinder" (does he even know what GRINDING is?!?!) Mizrachi.
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:22 AM   #231
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Re: How does Andy Frankenberger do it?

The guy used to work as an Equity Derivatives trader, maybe he does have a clue lol.
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:27 AM   #232
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I am starting to wonder at what point some of you guys would accept that whilst unconventional Frankenburger may just have a clue. I'm not saying he has or he hasn't, I'm just curious what it would take for him to overcome the initial impression he has formed.

For sure you can still mark him down as a luckbox but we seem to be rapidly reaching a point where "variance lol" will not really cut it.
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:33 AM   #233
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Re: How does Andy Frankenberger do it?

As a live pro he probably plays about 100 tournaments a year, at that rate its entirely conceivable that he could run like God his entire life. The "it's not variance" argument is invalid, it can always be variance. The guy obviously knows how to play, but he seems to do some pretty bad livepro stuff. Don't think I'd back him to beat online MTTs at a $100 ABI over 10,000 games.

EDIT: Also the way he's apparently been celebrating a lot, showing bluffs to Ivey etc probably means his ego's been a bit hurt by the criticism lately and he feels like winning one tourney will validate him. However much tilt you're on showing Ivey your bluffs is obviously really dumb.
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:34 AM   #234
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The guy used to work as an Equity Derivatives trader, maybe he does have a clue lol.

+1

He definitely does
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:36 AM   #235
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Lol, I'm no fan of his. I just love watching you guys flaming away and wonder how many titles he would have to win for the flaming to stop. More of a question about the crowd dynamics of 2+2 than Frankenberger I guess.
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:47 AM   #236
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Re: How does Andy Frankenberger do it?

All I hear about this guy is him making dumbass plays and he almost made Luke vomit on TV

some sick heater I guess
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:12 AM   #237
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As a live pro he probably plays about 100 tournaments a year, at that rate its entirely conceivable that he could run like God his entire life. The "it's not variance" argument is invalid, it can always be variance. The guy obviously knows how to play, but he seems to do some pretty bad livepro stuff. Don't think I'd back him to beat online MTTs at a $100 ABI over 10,000 games.

EDIT: Also the way he's apparently been celebrating a lot, showing bluffs to Ivey etc probably means his ego's been a bit hurt by the criticism lately and he feels like winning one tourney will validate him. However much tilt you're on showing Ivey your bluffs is obviously really dumb.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:13 AM   #238
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Lol, I'm no fan of his. I just love watching you guys flaming away and wonder how many titles he would have to win for the flaming to stop. More of a question about the crowd dynamics of 2+2 than Frankenberger I guess.
I don't think its a question of titles, I think it's about the way he plays. Anyone with a modicum of poker experience knows titles don't equal ability, but pretty much every time he's on TV or in the public eye he just seems to make a bunch of mistakes. Not just non-standard plays, but obvious mistakes. If he made just one final table where he hung around playing unspectacular ABC poker for a while, it'd do his reputation a lot of good.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:21 AM   #239
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Jealousy ftw
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:27 AM   #240
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He's just sick.. WSOP bracelet added!
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:31 AM   #241
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Re: How does Andy Frankenberger do it?

Here's the latest 2012 WSOP player of the year standings. Would be sick if he does it!

1 Andrew Frankenberger 372.16
2 John Monnette 310.50
3 Brian Hastings 292.50
4 Phil Ivey 278.55
5 Ashkan Razavi 274.06
6 Aubin Cazals 251.00
7 Phil Hellmuth 240.00

The man with the hottest name in poker Frankenberger!
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:36 AM   #242
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I don't think its a question of titles, I think it's about the way he plays. Anyone with a modicum of poker experience knows titles don't equal ability, but pretty much every time he's on TV or in the public eye he just seems to make a bunch of mistakes. Not just non-standard plays, but obvious mistakes. If he made just one final table where he hung around playing unspectacular ABC poker for a while, it'd do his reputation a lot of good.
I understand what you're saying and kind of agree in part. However, I think part of his success has to be attributed to him being very hard to play against because he doesn't play ABC poker which confuses his opponents (HU against Ivey I think he got Ivey to make a couple of rare mistakes because he couldn't work out what line AF was taking - it could be argued that AF doesn't even know what line he's taking sometimes and maybe he doesn't).

I think his image probably helps him get paid off in spots early and that has helped get him deep in tourneys where he's no doubt run good also. Whether it's by design or just luck is arguable, but I think he's definitley smart enough to understand his image and how to use that to his advantage despite making some "technical" mistakes that we don't usually see from the pros.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:44 AM   #243
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He's just sick.. WSOP bracelet added!
Actually his second.

Pretty sick for a luckbox/run good/moron.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:53 AM   #244
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Well he silences me. He's doing something right. Congrats Andy.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:58 AM   #245
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The guy used to work as an Equity Derivatives trader, maybe he does have a clue lol.
Maybe he'll think that, and he'll bring his money to the cash game tables...
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:23 AM   #246
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Re: How does Andy Frankenberger do it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk8yURrEOhc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKEV9ShxASU
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:39 AM   #247
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Re: How does Andy Frankenberger do it?

apparently a broken clock can be right four or five times a day. I still think he's ******ed tho
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:46 AM   #248
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:55 AM   #249
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apparently a broken clock can be right four or five times a day. I still think he's ******ed tho
new nickname, the Forrest Gump of Poker?
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:58 AM   #250
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Re: How does Andy Frankenberger do it?


Out of his 21 live cashes 11 have been in the top 8
Has Two WSOP bracelets
Has One WPT Title
Has Over 2.5 million in earnings
and yet still I can't get over that QQ fold + the response about it

the darkest of all black swans?
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