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Old 06-28-2011, 02:15 PM   #1
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How to Contact the Alderney Authorities to Try to Get Your Money from FTP

I have a significant balance with FTP and want to cash it out.

I've been looking on the forums for information on how I can get this money back, but no-one seems to have looked into it. So, I have decided to stop lurking and register

I made some calls last week. I spoke to a very helpful lady who works in the court in Alderney who told me it is real easy. She even looked up Filco for me and confirmed that they were an Alderney company and who I should write to.

This procedure works only for claims under 2,500 pounds (about $US4,000). For higher amounts people will have to file a law suit using a different procedure. I guess most people will be owed less than $4,000.

You first write a letter to Filco in Alderney demanding they pay you your money back. Here is the address and suggested wording:

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Filco Ltd
Inchalla
Le Val
Alderney
Channel Islands
GY9 3UL



Dear Sirs

I am a customer of yours with the username [xxxx]. I have a positive balance with you of $[xxx]. You have a contractual obligation to return this money to me on my demand.

Therefore, by this letter, I demand that you return this money to me by [7 days from date of letter]. If you have not returned the money to me by then I will ask the court to issue a summons against you in the Court of Alderney.

Sincerely,



[name]

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Assuming Filco will not pay the money back, you then write to the court with a check for 50 pounds (note it must be a check for GB Pounds). The check is made payable to "The Clerk of the Court". Here is the address and wording:



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Sarah Kelly
Greffier
The Court of Alderney
Queen Elizabeth II Street
Alderney
GY9 3TB



Dear Ms Kelly

On [date] I wrote to Filco demanding they return $[amount] to me. I gave them 7 days to pay. I enclose a copy of that letter.

At the time of writing they still have not paid this money and have not replied to me denying the money is due and owing.

I therefore ask that you issue a summons against this company on my behalf for repayment of this money. I enclose a check for 50 pounds to cover court expenses. I confirm that the company owes me this money.

I look forward to hearing that the summons has been issued and whether you need anything else from me.

Sincerely,





[name]

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After the court has issued the summons they will serve it on Filco and set a date for a hearing. If Filco do not turn up and defend your claim, the court will grant judgment in default and order Filco to pay you your money back. If Filco do not comply with the court order, you can then apply to have the company declared insolvent. Again, this is a simple procedure.

If you don't do any of this, you will have to wait for FTP to give you your money back. Doing this allows you to take control and get your money when you demand it - not when it suits FTP.

For those who go this route, they will get their money because if Filco don't pay you, they will be declared insolvent and will lose their Alderney gaming licence.

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Old 06-28-2011, 02:20 PM   #2
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

The new Nigerian we have money waiting for you scam?
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:22 PM   #3
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

OP obv pokerstars shill account
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:24 PM   #4
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

Is Filco FTP?
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:24 PM   #5
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

It's always the guys with new accounts that have all the answers, eh?
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:25 PM   #6
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

Post proof that this worked for you, before telling people how it will work for them.
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:25 PM   #7
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

in a perfect world this might work...too bad we live in a time run by greed and corruption...
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:27 PM   #8
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

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The new Nigerian we have money waiting for you scam?
Nice first post for this thread.
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:32 PM   #9
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Sounds legit.
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:32 PM   #10
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

so what happens when ftp shows up at the hearing and the player doesnt because they are in america?
the names and addresses look legit.
http://www.alderney.gov.gg/Court-of-Alderney
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:36 PM   #11
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If you don't feel like doing all of that just send me your $50 and I'll do it for you ;p
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:40 PM   #12
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

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The new Nigerian we have money waiting for you scam?
I'd put money on it. OP probably isn't even from U.S. We have money for you. All you have to do is pay us.
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:58 PM   #13
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But youre canadian
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:06 PM   #14
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I therefore ask that you issue a summons against this company on my behalf for repayment of this money. I enclose a check for 50 pounds to cover court expenses. I confirm that the company owes me this money.

I look forward to hearing that the summons has been issued and whether you need anything else from me.

Sincerely,
GTFO scammer,
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:09 PM   #15
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

How is this not locked yet??

And how has the op not been..... well I can't say it, but you know.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:10 PM   #16
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

OP, i am buying Full Tilt money @ 70 cents per dollar. PM me if you're interested.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:14 PM   #17
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

OP preying on the crowd bustoed by the DoJ

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Old 06-28-2011, 03:19 PM   #18
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

Why are people saying he's trying to scam/rip-off others? I don't think what he suggests is worth most peoples time, but yea courts do charge $ to file crap.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:20 PM   #19
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:21 PM   #20
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

Yeah, agree. This isn't a scam but I'm not really interested.

Screw paying someone to get FTP to pay me.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:29 PM   #21
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

I'm sure if you googled the court address and verified it, you could be confident this is not a scam.

However, I do work in the uk legal system myself and I am slightly sceptical on making a check out to the Clerk of the Court. When I see payments made to Court, they are usually made to HMCS, or HMCTS as they have now become known as they have incorporated the tribunal service.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:32 PM   #22
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

However this is a civil matter not a criminal matter, and I work on the criminal side of things.

Also I'm not too sure how able FTP are to comply with a court order over here. So don't be surprised if this is legit, but won't get you anywhere.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:32 PM   #23
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

Strangely missing is any statement that this actually was done by OP and that it worked. Wonder why...
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:44 PM   #24
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

The word "immediately" should probably be removed from the title.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:44 PM   #25
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Re: How US Players Can Immediately Cash Out of Full Tilt Poker

According to the Alderney Gaming Control Commission, the company that operates FTP is Vantage Limited.

For those interested the AGCC's latest (20th May) statement on FTP can be found here
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