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How come Johnny Chan doesn't get any respect? How come Johnny Chan doesn't get any respect?

10-26-2010 , 01:51 PM
TJ Clutier only plays live.
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10-26-2010 , 01:52 PM
If being on PAD makes you one of the best in the world then I guess Guy Laliberté is one of the best in the world.
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10-26-2010 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrillSeeker
Johnny Chan is one of the very best at poker. How many POD's has he been on? a whole lot and he's won like 95% of them. He never plays online.

Sam Farha never plays on the internet and he also is a very good player, Chan said in interview that Sam is one of best and much better than Doyle. Sam never plays on the internet.

And this doesnt just go for older poker greats but also young studs like Tuan Le. Tuan Le is a guy who makes a lot of money playing poker. He doesnt even bother entering tourneys anymore after crushing them. He is probably the best underground poker player ATM. He never plays on the internet.

A guy like Phil Ivey is an exception to the rule.

I have zero respect for internet poker 'pros' even Tom Dwan, I think hes a fish if he were to play against a guy like Tuan Le. How is Tom Dwan a great poker player? because he went on a heater and now passes chips back and forth with his buddies? that is not a great player. Tuan Le is a great player. Tuan Le would absolutely crush Dwan, and I would back this statement up with my checkbook.
Yes, and Tuan Le is tearing up those televised cash games that include Dwan, right?

Dwan will take on any comers online. How come Le hasn't taken him up on it? It should be easy money for him.
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10-26-2010 , 02:07 PM
Dont forget this guy. Way too good for the internet.

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10-26-2010 , 02:08 PM
Nice try bro, but obvious troll is obvious.
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10-26-2010 , 02:17 PM
We've had this thread or variation a ton of times. the fact that all 3 of OPs NVG threads are about how great Johnny Chan is makes me think he is trolling, but I'll combine the threads together in case he is sincere and wants to discuss how great Johnny is. Did you see him in rounders? How many online players have been in a movie with Matt Damon.
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10-26-2010 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sc****uy
All of the best players are online heads up specialists
Like Joe Cada? give me a break

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Originally Posted by UCBananaboy
What makes you suspect that these players don't play on screen names that you aren't familiar with?

Also -- I thought Chan had his own poker room once...
Chan lent his name to a poker site that shut down, it did not allow Us players, Johnny's lawyer advised him to no be involved with online gaming as it could cause him problems in the future. He would like to have seen the money but sleeping good at night was more important. Personally he did not play on the site, or any poker site. He does not play on the internet.


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Originally Posted by gulon
If being on PAD makes you one of the best in the world then I guess Guy Laliberté is one of the best in the world.
Hmmm, this is almost not serious enough to reply too. The point was he ALWAYS wins on these shows where as Dwan is stuck a lot of times not to say anything about other internet 'pros' on these shows.

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Originally Posted by Aabelno
Yes, and Tuan Le is tearing up those televised cash games that include Dwan, right?

Dwan will take on any comers online. How come Le hasn't taken him up on it? It should be easy money for him.
1. Tuan Le is not invited to these shows, he was on one PAD years ago, made second after being hit with cooler after cooler and getting sucked on on like crazy.

2. Tuan Le does not play online

3. Live Tuan Le would CRUSH Dwan I would wager this. I'm Tuan Le would have no problem sitting down with Dwan. It is Dwan who has the problem.
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10-26-2010 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
We've had this thread or variation a ton of times. the fact that all 3 of OPs NVG threads are about how great Johnny Chan is makes me think he is trolling, but I'll combine the threads together in case he is sincere and wants to discuss how great Johnny is. Did you see him in rounders? How many online players have been in a movie with Matt Damon.
Hey no problem, although first thread was about Chan, Second about players lying boasting and the last about internet. But it's fine.

Yes, chan was great in Rounders. No other Poker pro at the time could have pulled it off. Good thing they didnt make that movie today. Could you imagine a vampire Dwan in that role? or a negreanu? It would have made that scene lose all value and be pathetic. I think a Tuan Le or Sam Farha would also look good in that scene. Not as good as johnny of course but the scene could still retain its credibility.

I'm afraid the image of 'poker player' is changing for the worse,, people are now picturing fat guys like Moneymaker/remer/moon, number nerds like ferguson, or guys who just flat out look like they have never seen the light of day like Dwan.

Poker needs to return to the "cool" image, the johhny chan badass, the stud tuan le, the fast talking sylin' farha.
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10-26-2010 , 03:05 PM
op has created 3 threads on page 1 of NVG please ban
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10-26-2010 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrillSeeker
Johnny Chan claims he ran 200$ up to 30k in his first poker session in Las Vegas.
Is something like this believable?

He says he played 10/20 limit and folded the first 20 hands until he has 66 and flopped a set, took a 500$ pot and ran it up to 30k that same day/ session.

How likely is something like this to happen? Is turning so little into so much so fast really possible?

I hear about how so many are broke, only a select few will make anything from pokers, etc and then I hear stories like this and it makes me want to drop out of school to pursue this life..
Yea, but you left out the part where he says he lost it all back the next day. He also says after he moved to Vegas he worked as a cook and was broke many times. Also you have to remember that was back when there were a lot of bad players and only 2 or 3 books out about holdem. Also very few players had a lot of experience unlike now where players have hundreds of thousands and even millions of hands under their belt from playing on the computer. You'd be an idiot to quit school because of anything someone else did, especially 30 years ago. These people like Durr and Chan are one in a million. Get your degree and then you can always take a shot after that.
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10-26-2010 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrillSeeker
3. Live Tuan Le would CRUSH Dwan I would wager this. I'm Tuan Le would have no problem sitting down with Dwan. It is Dwan who has the problem.
And why didn't he show up at the live televised durrrr challenge in London then?

Do you have source were Durrrr declines action from him?
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10-26-2010 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrillSeeker
Johnny Chan is one of the very best at poker. How many POD's has he been on? a whole lot and he's won like 95% of them. He never plays online.

Sam Farha never plays on the internet and he also is a very good player, Chan said in interview that Sam is one of best and much better than Doyle. Sam never plays on the internet.

And this doesnt just go for older poker greats but also young studs like Tuan Le. Tuan Le is a guy who makes a lot of money playing poker. He doesnt even bother entering tourneys anymore after crushing them. He is probably the best underground poker player ATM. He never plays on the internet.

A guy like Phil Ivey is an exception to the rule.

I have zero respect for internet poker 'pros' even Tom Dwan, I think hes a fish if he were to play against a guy like Tuan Le. How is Tom Dwan a great poker player? because he went on a heater and now passes chips back and forth with his buddies? that is not a great player. Tuan Le is a great player. Tuan Le would absolutely crush Dwan, and I would back this statement up with my checkbook.
Candidate for post of the year.
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10-26-2010 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrillSeeker
Johnny Chan is one of the very best at poker. How many POD's has he been on? a whole lot and he's won like 95% of them. He never plays online.

Sam Farha never plays on the internet and he also is a very good player, Chan said in interview that Sam is one of best and much better than Doyle. Sam never plays on the internet.

And this doesnt just go for older poker greats but also young studs like Tuan Le. Tuan Le is a guy who makes a lot of money playing poker. He doesnt even bother entering tourneys anymore after crushing them. He is probably the best underground poker player ATM. He never plays on the internet.

A guy like Phil Ivey is an exception to the rule.

I have zero respect for internet poker 'pros' even Tom Dwan, I think hes a fish if he were to play against a guy like Tuan Le. How is Tom Dwan a great poker player? because he went on a heater and now passes chips back and forth with his buddies? that is not a great player. Tuan Le is a great player. Tuan Le would absolutely crush Dwan, and I would back this statement up with my checkbook.
lolol
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10-26-2010 , 07:15 PM
I think everyone is missing the true point here,
Spoiler:
Erik Seidel was in Rounders too
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10-26-2010 , 07:44 PM
Didn't he win 11 flips in a row in one of those main events?

Pretty much how you have to run to go 1st, 1st, 2nd.
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10-26-2010 , 08:04 PM
johnny chan has lifetime respect from the high stakes cash regs..... for coaching Jamie Gold to that record WSOP ME bink.
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10-26-2010 , 09:36 PM
johnny chan is just another run of the mill old timer who fell behind the poker curve due to the advancement of the game on the internet. nothing to see here.
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10-26-2010 , 10:44 PM
Because he's a horrible tipper.
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10-26-2010 , 11:45 PM
Johnny Chan is one of the very best at poker. How many POD's has he been on? a whole lot and he's won like 95% of them. He never plays online.

Sam Farha never plays on the internet and he also is a very good player, Chan said in interview that Sam is one of best and much better than Doyle. Sam never plays on the internet.

And this doesnt just go for older poker greats but also young studs like Tuan Le. Tuan Le is a guy who makes a lot of money playing poker. He doesnt even bother entering tourneys anymore after crushing them. He is probably the best underground poker player ATM. He never plays on the internet.

A guy like Phil Ivey is an exception to the rule.

I have zero respect for internet poker 'pros' even Tom Dwan, I think hes a fish if he were to play against a guy like Tuan Le. How is Tom Dwan a great poker player? because he went on a heater and now passes chips back and forth with his buddies? that is not a great player. Tuan Le is a great player. Tuan Le would absolutely crush Dwan, and I would back this statement up with my checkbook.


Went to obvious towards the end, otherwise good level.
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10-27-2010 , 01:46 AM
Johnny Chan was a cook. He played 3-6 and 4-8 for long time. He worked his way up, and got lucky in some tournaments.

While Chip, Doyle and the boys were taking Major Riddle for millions in the "cheaters" game at the Silverbird casino. Chan was a couple tables over playing 4-8.

In the 2000 WSOP a former dealer dumped a super-sized 7-11 Big Gulp over Chan's head while he was playing. A few years earlier Chan had thrown the cards in the dealer's face, and he had waited all that time for his revenge.

Chan is a piece of **** who can't put two sentences together.

Worship all you want.
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08-16-2019 , 03:33 PM
Johnny Chan could still put up the respect he deserves when you see him at the tables. The problem is the ego he puts against the dealers. If I were to guess, the days of stacking up cards in his favor are long gone, so don't blame the dealers.

However, with that being said Johnny Chan should be able to contend with the best of the best still. The players nowadays are just riding up the heater but just passing chips along to each other for the most part. Everytime I see Tom dwam on TV for instance, he is mostly stuck.
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08-16-2019 , 04:14 PM
what does able to contend with the best of the best, he would obviously lose at a decent pace vs the best of the best, I'm guessing you mean he wouldn't get completely obliterated like a recreational player?
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08-16-2019 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Trent Raisner
Why? Because he won two 180 player donkaments in the 80s?
1985 $1,000 Limit Hold'em $171,000
1987 $10,000 No Limit Hold'em World Championship $625,000
1988 $10,000 No Limit Hold'em World Championship $700,000
1994 $1,500 Seven Card Stud $135,600
1997 $5,000 Deuce to Seven Draw $164,250
2000 $1,500 Pot Limit Omaha $178,800
2002 $2,500 No Limit Hold'em Gold Bracelet Match Play $34,000
2003 $5,000 No Limit Hold'em $224,400
2003 $5,000 Pot Limit Omaha $158,100
2005 $2,500 Pot Limit Hold'em $303,025
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08-16-2019 , 06:34 PM
Most players respect Johnny Chan he had a great career but obv the days of him being ‘one of the best’ are way behind him.

He’s made his money and locked up his spot in poker history, i’m sure he knows he can’t compete at the highest levels anymore and is fine with that (unlike a lot of the poker pros from back in the day).

Although, This hand came to mind when reading the thread title.
Pretty disrespectful. (Phil Laak snap folding 7s full to a river raise).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2mt-ig_8T9M
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08-16-2019 , 10:27 PM
Mega nit
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