where it restricts some players from using the client like everyone else (is allowed, advertised, etc)? Everyone within a city, state, province should be treated equally, because if they aren't it means they're discriminated, and this is the use, and purpose of governing bodies (regulators) existence. When a company is allowed (obtains a license) to do "business" where I live, there cannot be a "double standard", and what I mean by this, let's say there's a monopoly, where one "licensed" company can only sell cheese or milk where I live, but if that company restricts me from coming to the store from buying that cheese/milk, because the manager/owner knows I'll only pay the price that's advertised, and not an additional 10-15% in cash that someone else is willing, see where I'm going with this?

What's worse, let's say there was a line I had to wait 15-20 min to finally get to the product, but once the owner/manager sees me, they will say "product is sold", but then they'll sell more of it to those who'll say I'll pay you extra $$$. What this means it's also that my time has been wasted in line "waiting", for something that I expect to be there, but isn't except it is for "certain individuals".

Please educate yourself so you aren't discriminated, and when you are take action, because inaction it's how you'll continue to be discriminated. Most here know which companies have been discriminating not just me, but many others while continue to own a "license" where you're living. When one company already has a foothold "control" where you live, it brings competition, which makes it challenging for other companies to "invest" and deliver that same product to those who're left out "discriminated".

I don't. And having read the whole post, I'm still not sure what this thread is about

Me neither.

OP, maybe it would help if you described the actual situation before getting into complicated analogies.

Does this even belong in NVG?

Difficult to say without knowing what the thread is about..

They're clearly complaining about being banned from a sportsbook or poker site. That part is pretty clear. What site and what for would be helpful, but idk why we'd pretend not to know what they're talking about just because they're fired up.

Discrimination (ie treating people differently/not all the same) is fully legal and allowed for businesses, unless it's done for the specific reasons which make it illegal (ie things like your sexuality or ethnicity). Sorry you didn't know this.

Sure, that seems more than likely. But...

It wouldn't just be helpful, it's necessary for us to have any conversation on the topic. If OP just wanted to get this off his chest, mission accomplished I guess. But when one posts on a forum, it's typically to discuss an issue, or let people know about one. That's impossible here with the information we have. No one's pretending not to know anything.

@Bobo Fett,

In terms of poker look at this way, you go to a local casino where it's offering poker. The casino gives you a number to wait in line for the table spot, and after 30 min of waiting the casino let's someone else cut in line. The casino in this case doesn't only discriminates you, but it's unwilling to compensate you for those 30 min you wasted while waiting for that spot to open. Also a more experienced poker player would understands why that casino has an interest to give that specific player a priority, but it's also this belief that the casino that can keep doing this to me, like it's done it to others before (others who've cared less), and it's how this behavior will be encouraged to keep doing it.

Bottom line, a criminal will keep doing crime here and there for a scrub change, because people are inclined more to ignore petty crimes, than the hassle of dealing with it through the whole "process" or other alternative way, but then not all react same/similar when they feel being a victim, regardless of the type of crime. It's like some of the poker providers aren't already satisfied with the profits they generate, and often this is the case when they don't apply some of the best methods to grow their business/brand/product.

Poor customer service isn’t a crime nor is it discrimination. Go somewhere else.

I don't know why you're directing this specifically at me, as pretty much everyone has said that we don't know what you're talking about, and you've just replied with yet another analogy. Are you ever going to share what the actual problem is, and with what site(s) or location(s)?

With the little information you've provided so far, I'd agree with what others have said. Frustrating though it may be, a company isn't required to accept your business.

I think this thread is related to the Bay 101 one.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...101-a-1822204/

@OneCrazyDuck,

The example I made is far more important in the online market, because there's a lot more public venues/casinos that host live poker games. When it comes to online poker there's far less operators, especially "licensed", because of how much more revenue they have a potential to generate, what they're expected to invest/deliver, and who to compete with.

No player should be discriminated and excluded within their own state/city/province, especially if that company has been granted a license by a governing body (regulator). I've seen people justify doing many things, which is why those who can't apply common sense end up losing a lot more, just because they believed they had this "right", "privilege", etc. to do as it felt convenient.

Example, my store, my company, my trademark, my this and that, but when does that stop? I could also claim like many have in the past "land" that nobody owned, land I was born on, or I could say this is my city, my country, all the way to "my planet", where I can do as I please, or feel I have the "right". There's a certain cost of enforcing/regulating every law/rule, and only through time people will understand indeed how much that cost will be.

I am all for promoting fairness and common sense, but many are never satisfied, always want more, or what more they can get if they did this or that, if they enforced more rules upon others, if they gained more control on the lives of others, and this planet as a whole. For many online poker has been that one thing that's made a positive impact to their overall standard of living, and a better standard of living for everyone equals more peace and prosperity.

It's important for me and for most online/live poker players the game of poker to remain available, to be that additional option that others like me may consider getting into (to participate) short or long term, to continue evolving into being a more profitable/valuable activity that's worth the time, and money investment.

It stops where a legislator issues a law that disallows a provider from refusing services to you.

Absent that, nobody forces a business to accept you as a customer. And nobody forces you to be a customer at a specific business. Because the latter requires a market with multiple providers, there are usually rules in place in regulated markets. We don't know which ones apply to you because you refuse to tell us exactly why you made this thread.

So you’re not allowed to buy cheese at some store because someone else would pay more? Why would they do that? Which store? This is very difficult to follow.

Cheese store. Pls follow along.

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Well, only suckers buck the tiger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT3OQECSDoQ

lol, second only to the dead parrot

https://www.facebook.com/classictvmo...7547494758238/

I'll ask a question that often comes to mind whenever I hear one side of a dispute, and I'll word said question in a similar style to the OP's:

Hronmeer, if I was to "ask" the "business" that "discriminated" against you why they "discriminated" "against" you, what would you "expect" "their" answer to "be?"

Since this thread is sure to become an NVG classic, I asked Chat GPT to create a song about Cheese Store, with a similar vibe to Snootie Wild's "Yayo". Here is what it came up with.

(Verse 1)
Yeah, yeah, stepping in the cheese store, feeling fly
I'm on a mission, gotta satisfy my cheese supply
From Gouda to Cheddar, Swiss to Brie
I'm the cheesiest player that you'll ever see

(Pre-Chorus)
I walk through the doors, the aroma hits my nose
The cheese selection got me feeling so close
To a taste sensation, a dairy celebration
In the cheese store, I find my inspiration

(Chorus)
All I know is cheese store, yeah, that's my flow
From the deli to the dairy, watch me go
Gimme Gorgonzola, Camembert, and more
All I know is cheese store, that's for sure

(Verse 2)
I'm in the aisles, my eyes wide open
Every cheese calling, I can't stop, I'm hopin'
To discover new flavors, explore the unknown
In the cheese store, my love for cheese is shown

(Pre-Chorus)
I sample and I savor, I feel the cheese power
From tangy to creamy, it's my finest hour
In the cheese store, I'm the king of the dairy
All I know is cheese store, I'm never wary

(Chorus)
All I know is cheese store, yeah, that's my flow
From the deli to the dairy, watch me go
Gimme Gorgonzola, Camembert, and more
All I know is cheese store, that's for sure

(Bridge)
Cheese store vibes got me feeling so alive
I'm surrounded by flavors, it's a cheese hive
I'm the cheesemonger, the maestro of the curd
In the cheese store, my passion is stirred

(Verse 3)
I stack 'em high, I slice 'em thin
From Havarti to Roquefort, let the tasting begin
I'm a cheese aficionado, I know my stuff
In the cheese store, I can't get enough

(Pre-Chorus)
Every visit, a new adventure awaits
In the cheese store, I'm the one who dictates
The flavors that I crave, the textures that I seek
All I know is cheese store, it's cheese I speak

(Chorus)
All I know is cheese store, yeah, that's my flow
From the deli to the dairy, watch me go
Gimme Gorgonzola, Camembert, and more
All I know is cheese store, that's for sure

(Outro)
So if you're a cheese lover, come along with me
In the cheese store, where the cheese sets us free
All I know is cheese store, it's my delight
Cheese store vibes, day and night

Oh man, AI is going to put human songwriters out of business. All the young people in garage bands are going to have a much easier time writing music now.

Cheese store song delivers big time