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07-13-2023 , 11:14 AM

paulcastellano

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The main idea is: why site dont use their promotion money/rakeback money to create -EV bots that play bad/do crazy stuff to make their games more appealing?

Im sure this would be better money invested than any rakeback program, marketings or stuff like that

What you guys think?

Kind Regards

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07-13-2023 , 11:21 AM

SetTheLine

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Why bots when you can give it to human degens that’ll do more than just punt off on the tables

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07-15-2023 , 11:17 AM

RussellinToronto

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Imagine how much suspicion and resentment would be felt every time a house bot calls all-in with a poor draw and hits on the river.

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07-15-2023 , 11:40 AM

Tutejszy

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we can implement this as soon as poker-themed hotel is done

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07-15-2023 , 02:09 PM

ejames209

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Poker sites aren't really interested in implementing bots that lose them money.

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07-15-2023 , 04:23 PM

Baracus

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Originally Posted by ejames209

Poker sites aren't really interested in implementing bots that lose them money.

it is pretty crazy that poker sites still haven't flooded their sites with bots losing money in 2023

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07-15-2023 , 07:09 PM

paulcastellano

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Originally Posted by Baracus

it is pretty crazy that poker sites still haven't flooded their sites with bots losing money in 2023

they spend like 50 millions in rakeback

why not give this 50 million with crazy bots?

rake would increase a lot also

and more real players would play

maybe the world is not ready for this genious idea of mine

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07-15-2023 , 08:35 PM

dude45

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Great idea until one of those bots sucks out or coolers someone. Then 2p2 would be flooded with posts about poker sites using bots to steal people's money.

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07-15-2023 , 08:36 PM

dude45

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Originally Posted by paulcastellano

What do you mean by real players?

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07-17-2023 , 04:21 AM

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Bobo Fett

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Originally Posted by paulcastellano

How are you getting more players to play through this scheme? It seems far easier to market $50 million in rakeback, giveaways, prize, or other promotional giveaways, than $50 million given away by "crazy bots". Also said crazy bots are going to win a lot of pots on their way to giving away said $50 million - rakeback and other promotions never take money away from players.

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07-17-2023 , 05:21 AM

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JamesJumpingSpider

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Originally Posted by paulcastellano

I think poker sites want to avoid being seen as having zero integrity by having house bots filling the tables. Not only that but every seat taken by a house bot is a seat not taken by a customer. Sites use promotions like rakeback to encourage regular play by more people, getting rid of that and filling their table with losing house bots wouldn't incentivize people to put in regular play on their site.

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07-17-2023 , 05:23 AM

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JamesJumpingSpider

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

Also said crazy bots are going to win a lot of pots

Yeah this too. Due to variance even the worst losing bots are going to win some pots, and could even go on heaters. Imagine 2p2 and reddit being full of posts about a poker site running house bots in the games and the bots keep winning everyone's money. The "poker is rigged" thing is already bad enough on forums and reddit. Who would play there after seeing posts like that?? No one.

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07-17-2023 , 06:42 AM

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Zamadhi

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A site like GG wouldn't want to do this, because they want to give most of the rakeback to recreationals, but with "bad bots" most of the money would go to the regs.

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07-17-2023 , 07:53 AM

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Round of 6

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Originally Posted by Zamadhi

A site like GG wouldn't want to do this, because they want to give most of the rakeback to recreationals, but with "bad bots" most of the money would go to the regs.

This is probably the best argument against.

Not the worst idea though, could be something to it.

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07-17-2023 , 08:11 AM

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PokerEthics

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Originally Posted by paulcastellano

What about instead of giving negreanu or the big name marketers money they just gave away match deposits up to that amount?

Using your same logic kinda

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