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07-12-2018 , 05:39 AM

Broken Sunglasses

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Joe Cada already has one WSOP Main Event bracelet ('09).

He goes in to the final table of this year's Main Event sixth in chips.

To win two WSOP Main Events in the 'post-boom' era of 6000+ field sizes.. what would it mean for Joe's place in the poker world? What would it elevate his status to? Will he become so massive that his mere attendance in future poker tournaments will make the news (ala Ivey, Dwan, etc). Will he be spoken of as a poker icon? A cult figure? Will we see people mention Ivey, Brunson, Cada in the same sentence..?

What, exactly, will happen to Joe's poker reputation if he wins this year's Main Event?

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07-12-2018 , 09:25 AM

swissodds

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[ ] The world will explode and change for ever
[x] Jcada will be a double ME champ

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07-12-2018 , 09:27 AM

Xenoblade

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elevate his status to luckiest player of all time probably

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07-12-2018 , 09:37 AM

RecreationalPlayer

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I think the days of becoming known outside the poker community are over in terms of success. If you did something scummy, you have a slim chance of being known. But if Joe Cada wins again (and I hope he does, seems a decent guy) it will be fairly sombre from anyone but the usual poker media. It might make a newspaper or news article, but nothing like Moneymaker.

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07-12-2018 , 10:23 AM

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Joe Cada, I served with Johnny Moss, Doyle Brunson, Johnny Chan, and Stu Ungar - collectively known as The Four Kings of Poker. I knew the Four Kings of Poker. The Four Kings of Poker were friends of mine. Joe Cada, you are no Four Kings of Poker.

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07-12-2018 , 10:25 AM

Xenoblade

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who is johnny moss

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07-12-2018 , 10:28 AM

Clayton

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yep.

a good analogy would be like one of the best darts players doing a back to back nine darter. what? yeah you probably have no idea wtf that is unless you watch darts/play darts/are a darts fan. no chance something like that makes the mainstream beyond a 10 second clip on sportscenter or maybe, if you're lucky, an outside the lines piece 2 months later.

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07-12-2018 , 11:17 AM

Dr. Spaceman

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For those that don't know, a nine darter is when you throw nine darts at once and each of them lands in a different one of the nine sections on a dart board. It's considered almost impossible.

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07-12-2018 , 11:24 AM

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For those that don't know, a nine darter is when you throw nine darts at once and each of them lands in a different one of the nine sections on a dart board. It's considered almost impossible.

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07-12-2018 , 11:29 AM

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illdonk

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Originally Posted by Broken Sunglasses

Will we see people mention Ivey, Brunson, Cada in the same sentence..?

You already did, and he didn’t even need to win.

It’s hard to convey to a general audience that winning a championship twice is a big deal.

As for the poker audience, it would obviously be a great accomplishment, but at the same time it feels a little random to me.

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07-12-2018 , 11:35 AM

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Mr Spyutastic

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who is johnny moss

I think he won the ME a few times back when it was basically a SNG.

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07-12-2018 , 11:53 AM

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namisgr11

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Originally Posted by Xenoblade

elevate his status to luckiest player of all time probably

Couldn't be that he deserves credit for knowing supremely well how to navigate large Main Event type fields, and has the composure and nerves needed to go all the way, now could it?

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07-12-2018 , 11:56 AM

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namisgr11

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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic

I think he won the ME a few times back when it was basically a SNG.

Moss won 9 bracelets between 1970 and 1988, was a legendary cash game player, and a charter inductee into the Poker Hall of Fame.

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07-12-2018 , 12:09 PM

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Moss won 9 bracelets between 1970 and 1988, was a legendary cash game player, and a charter inductee into the Poker Hall of Fame.

By reputation, he was even greater between 1949 and 1970 - according to Doyle Brunson.

He was already considered past his prime when he won 9 of those bracelets. He continued to play long after that and was only 1% of his former self as he played into the mid-1990's. I think Mason Malmuth can confirm this last part because he has claimed that he has played 20-40 limit holdem with this ghost version of the man Brunson and Baldwin considered the Greatest of All Time when he was still in his prime decades earlier.

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07-12-2018 , 12:13 PM

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CleanShaven

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His ROI must be above average

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07-12-2018 , 12:15 PM

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Sir Huntington

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He'll probably be forgotten just like the first time he won...

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07-12-2018 , 12:19 PM

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Moss won 9 bracelets between 1970 and 1988, was a legendary cash game player, and a charter inductee into the Poker Hall of Fame.

he won 9 bracelets when almost nobody was in these tournaments and was a cheat like most of the rest of the old school so called greats.

and of course doyle would say his cheating buddy was amazing at poker.

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07-12-2018 , 12:20 PM

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Couldn't be that he deserves credit for knowing supremely well how to navigate large Main Event type fields, and has the composure and nerves needed to go all the way, now could it?

lol far more likey he plays well and more importantly has run hotter than the sun

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07-12-2018 , 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Spaceman

For those that don't know, a nine darter is when you throw nine darts at once and each of them lands in a different one of the nine sections on a dart board. It's considered almost impossible.

brag: i have done this

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07-12-2018 , 12:25 PM

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It seems like we've had way more repeat champions than we should have had.

Even though the fields were smaller, it's pretty amazing that 4 guys won multiple times (and 2 guys won 3 times). Plus we've already had a 2 time winner and a 3 time winner of the player's championship.

Plus the crazy runs of Harrington 03-04, Raymer 04-05, Eastgate 08-09 and Newhouse 13-14.

Poker is rigged for sure.

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07-12-2018 , 12:38 PM

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This is true. Poker is no longer mainstream like it was during the boom. It is more popular than ever within the poker community with all the streams, hand analysis videos etc. but for people outside of the poker world it is off the radar these days.

In the USA that is. A main event winner from Brazil, China or India would become mainstream news in those countries and boost poker tremendously and honestly should be something that the WSOP of poker pulls for to happen in the next few years.

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07-12-2018 , 12:48 PM

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SpursDynasty

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Let us not over think this. It would be huge.

Also, it's more meaningful that Durant didn't have to join him just to win another title.

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07-12-2018 , 12:52 PM

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namisgr11

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lol far more likey he plays well and more importantly has run hotter than the sun

He's a three time bracelet winner, including the $10k 6 max that has arguably the toughest NLHE field of the Series.

But I guess it's all about being at the extreme end of the variance distribution, right?

No skill in poker, everybody's a luckbox.

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07-12-2018 , 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Spaceman

For those that don't know, a nine darter is when you throw nine darts at once and each of them lands in a different one of the nine sections on a dart board. It's considered almost impossible.

I thought there were 20 sections in darts?

For me, Cada's obviously doing something right. NL tournament success is about consistency, no blow ups, and the occasional a6 hitting a river flush to beat a10.

How does repeating wsop champ compare to world series repeat wins?