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Old 07-28-2010, 12:35 PM   #126
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Re: House Financial Services Committee Markup on HR 2267 (markup on HR 2267 now!)

The amendments so far state 21 and over.

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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,2398402.story
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:36 PM   #127
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WTF do these kids get all the money to gamble online. My allowance was like $20 when I was 12.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:37 PM   #128
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WTF do these kids get all the money to gamble online. My allowance was like $20 when I was 12.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:38 PM   #129
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Kev, is the full text of the amendments available online yet? Or are you just listening a lot better than I am (which I do not doubt, for you are a superhero).
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:38 PM   #130
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well said frank.. take some bachus
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:39 PM   #131
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I haven't seen any amendments, maybe something in the legislation thread?
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:39 PM   #132
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tbh this bill getting thru is looking less and less fruitful for any online poker pro
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:40 PM   #133
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so this could end up being pretty bad for us 19-20 yr old pros huh :/
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:40 PM   #134
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The amendments so far state 21 and over.

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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,2398402.story
which says nothing about a 12-year old gambler. There was a mention of a 17-year old, but bachus keeps bringing up this supposed 12-year old...
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:41 PM   #135
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omg fulltilt and stars are associated with porn sites too!!

bachus is a ****ign ******
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:42 PM   #136
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so this could end up being pretty bad for us 19-20 yr old pros huh :/
by the time everything gets set up you'll be 21
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:42 PM   #137
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Now Bachus is just pulling stuff out of his ass.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:42 PM   #138
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This is my exact point to Craig!!

I got 50cents to wash the car and 25 cents to shine my Dads work shoes and 2.00 to do the yard. How are they depositing and no one has brought up you have to send these sites valid ID to receive any money. Why would one play not to make money? This is politic at it's finest fellas!

However in this country we have those do-gooders like the southern baptist who still do not allow their children to have a dance at the church preaching how WRONG this is out of one side of their mouth, while their watching porn and talking dirty out the other side of their mouth.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:43 PM   #139
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:43 PM   #140
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Bachus is such a joker.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:43 PM   #141
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The guy from Alabama is so out of touch.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:45 PM   #142
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Bean's amendment passes.

Now the manager's amendment:

Adds that bets not be made with credit cards (prepaid/debit card only).

House Financial Services Committee has no jurisdiction on tribal rights

Working to get parallel language to protect tribes

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Old 07-28-2010, 12:46 PM   #143
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I actually like this amendment regarding no credit cards and debit cards only.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:46 PM   #144
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Bachus is postering. We see his BS don't you think everyone in that room see's it.

The politicians minds are already made up. This is going to the House for a Vote, Barney knows that. Then to the Senate where it will have a tough time unless Obama secretly steps in.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:47 PM   #145
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Bean's amendment passes.

Now the manager's amendment:

Adds that bets not be made with credit cards (prepaid/debit card only).
Ooooh, yikes. That sucks.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:48 PM   #146
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No sane credit card company would allow charges to gambling sites anyway.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:48 PM   #147
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tbh this bill getting thru is looking less and less fruitful for any online poker pro
I reference my earlier point. You're missing a large element of the bigger picture. This opens the door to a new market. Yes, it closes the door to the market you know right now, so it's difficult to know if the new market will be as good (or better?) as the old market. But nonetheless....
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:49 PM   #148
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for house games...
I thought this bill was just re: poker
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:50 PM   #149
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I reference my earlier point. You're missing a large element of the bigger picture. This opens the door to a new market. Yes, it closes the door to the market you know right now, so it's difficult to know if the new market will be as good (or better?) as the old market. But nonetheless....
Do you realize how many of my fishy friends who play in a 1/3 NL home game would deposit if direct advertising were prevalent and there were no stigma attached to attempting to withdraw money?

A lot of my B/M and home game friends won't deposit online because of the difficulty to get the money OFF the website.

This would bring in a HUGE amount of fishy US players.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:50 PM   #150
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I thought this bill was just re: poker
Nope, all "gambling". It doesn't treat poker in particular at all, lumps it in with everything else, though states may be able to opt-out of casino gambling but not opt-out for poker (not sure on this one).
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