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Old 07-28-2010, 11:05 AM   #76
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Re: House Financial Services Committee Markup on HR 2267 (markup on HR 2267 now!)

WHOAAAA. Thou shalt not f*** with Mr. Frank.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:05 AM   #77
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I'm not sure if it's scarier that these are the people making decisions for the country or the fact that they were voted in in the first place.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:07 AM   #78
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The amendment banning foreign sites would be very bad as this bill is a huge longshot to become law this Congress and we'd A) lose Stars and Tilt as a funding source and B) increase the chances that Stars and Tilt leave the US market at some point.

Lets hope it dies.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:08 AM   #79
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Re: House Financial Services Committee Markup on HR 2267 (markup on HR 2267 now!)

I liked Frank's minister and bootlegger analogy.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:10 AM   #80
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Imposes freedom.

BOOM.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:13 AM   #81
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Re: House Financial Services Committee Markup on HR 2267 (markup on HR 2267 now!)

Where are y'all watching this? CSPAN?
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:14 AM   #82
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http://financialserv.edgeboss.net/wm...iop_070131.asx

There should be a break coming shortly.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:14 AM   #83
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Linky at the top. Streaming ASX.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:15 AM   #84
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"Imposing freedom? What do you think this is, America?"
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:17 AM   #85
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Voted no.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:17 AM   #86
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Roll call vote on the opt-in amendment expected around 12pm, Committee is in recess.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:18 AM   #87
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Just tuned in, cliffs?
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:20 AM   #88
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:24 AM   #89
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Re: House Financial Services Committee Markup on HR 2267 (markup on HR 2267 now!)

CLIFFS

These are amendments that have been added to the bill as part of the mark-up process. This does not mean that these amendments are now law -- they've just been changes proposed to the bill before it goes for full vote...

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First amendment (approved) by Sherman of CA, sites who have intentionally broken B&M or Internet gaming laws can not get a license.
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Second amendment (approved) by King of NY:

Prohibits sports betting, except for horseracing.
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3rd amendment (approved), by Kilroy of Ohio:

Gives Secretary of Treasury power to prohibit unsolicited emails and advertisements targeted to problem gamblers, minors.
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4th amendment - Bachus/Bachmann (withdrawn):

Prohibits offshore sites that have done business in the US, along with people who were employees of certain companies from being a licensee.
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5th amendement, Baca of California (denied/not germane):

Allows Indian tribes to participate in Internet gambling.

6th amendment, Baca of California (denied on initial voice vote, roll call vote upcoming):

Allow states/tribes to opt-in to Internet gambling.

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Old 07-28-2010, 11:25 AM   #90
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Just tuned in, cliffs?
We are all gonna be playing on GooglePoker.


edit: for something to do, just went to googlepoker.com. it redirects to absolutepoker.com. Now thats funny!
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:30 AM   #91
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Re: House Financial Services Committee Markup on HR 2267 (markup on HR 2267 now!)

This appears to be just posturing and pontificating right now. Once they get this through the subcommittee, doesn't it then go to the full house for amendments/modifications. The end product, if ever passed, will probably look quite different.

We as poker players are concerned but as the video shows, there does not seem to be a whole lot of interest in this in the chamber for any kind of turn out.

Did anyone see any national coverage on this during any of the morning news shows. I watch Foxnews and I didn't see anything.

It is interesting stuff watching how our government works, or it this case doesn't work to get legislation approved.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:30 AM   #92
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:34 AM   #93
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Re: House Financial Services Committee Markup on HR 2267 (markup on HR 2267 now!)

Can someone help me out here? I'm at work so I'm listening on my headphones while I'm doing other stuff, but I'm missing some of it.

So I know which amendments were passed and which weren't, but let's talk big picture. It seems like the general sway is to allow almost a sub-industry of online gambling to begin in the U.S. This industry would be taxed, regulated, and monitored within the U.S. I don't think they've indicated whether those outside the U.S. would be allowed on these sites. They seem to be averse to Stars and FTP and sites like that coming into the U.S., because they have no power to regulate them.

Final thought: if it comes down to it, and a new economy of online gambling / poker is started in the U.S., would that be so terrible? 40% of the SCOOP entrants were U.S. players. Obviously you're losing alot, but how many new players would play online in the U.S. because it was fair, easy, and regulated???
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:35 AM   #94
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The 6th amendment has a roll call vote at noon. It was voted no by voice vote. HOWEVER, Bachus requested a roll call vote, which will take place when the Committee returns.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:37 AM   #95
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The 6th amendment has a roll call vote at noon. It was voted no by voice vote. HOWEVER, Bachus requested a roll call vote, which will take place when the Committee returns.
thanks, edited...
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:42 AM   #96
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I can't believe people like Bachus actually help run this country. I am literally in shock.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:43 AM   #97
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We are all gonna be playing on GooglePoker.


edit: for something to do, just went to googlepoker.com. it redirects to absolutepoker.com. Now thats funny!
If GooglePoker was "safe", "regulated", "fun and easy", and "you can play for REAL MONEY!", I would play it in a heartbeat. The traffic would be ridiculous.....

Lotta glass-half-empties ITT.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:47 AM   #98
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I can't believe people like Bachus actually help run this country. I am literally in shock.
Thank the good people of Alabama for putting that gem in office...
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:56 AM   #99
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I can't believe people like Bachus actually help run this country. I am literally in shock.
Agreed
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:57 AM   #100
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It does Kevmath, in that we would all benefit from a global standard rather than one broken down & restricted by country/state?
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