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07-28-2010 , 02:27 PM
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will this vote be on cspan?
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07-28-2010 , 02:37 PM
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07-28-2010 , 02:52 PM
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geeze some of these amendments suck
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07-28-2010 , 02:54 PM
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I'm starting to see the glass half-full. Even if the regulations say we have to be 21, pay our child support, deposit with nothing but prepaid cards/accounts, etc, that's fine because there's still a ****-ton of us out there. And just because we fit in that category doesn't mean we are good at poker. Even the most responsible of us are still degenerate, this is the USA. We'll fill those sites, and to be honest, I wouldn't mind playing with a RNG THAT I KNOW is US regulated.
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07-28-2010 , 02:55 PM
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i am being a donkey, can someone explain this to me in plain english, so will online poker be legal in the US? and will comes that have been operating in the US like fulltilt and stars be able to get a license? thanks a million who ever answers
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07-28-2010 , 03:08 PM
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If this passes, online poker will be legal in states that don't opt out. Right now a companion bill charges a 50% deposit tax for those that play on unlicensed sites (i.e. in an opt out state)

It is a very open question whether FT and PS get licenses. The tenor of the hearing was negative towards that today.
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07-28-2010 , 03:09 PM
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There's no law currently banning online poker in the US. The US Department of Justice and other government agencies consider Internet gambling illegal.

The bill is to license and regulate Internet poker and gambling. Amendments of the bill state that Internet gambling sites that "illegally" broke the laws are not to be considered for a license.
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07-28-2010 , 03:13 PM
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Good pokerstars and FTP blow anyway
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07-28-2010 , 03:14 PM
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I'm assuming the states that will choose to opt out will include states like Nevada, Connecticut, maybe California, those places that have casinos that are powerful with the state's legislature?

Which legislative bodies decide that their state will opt out?
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07-28-2010 , 03:17 PM
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There's no law currently banning online poker in the US. The US Department of Justice and other government agencies consider Internet gambling illegal.

The bill is to license and regulate Internet poker and gambling. Amendments of the bill state that Internet gambling sites that "illegally" broke the laws are not to be considered for a license.
"Illegally" is the key word here, both Stars and FTP are licensed. They would not have pushed so hard for this if they didn't think they were included (at least this is what I have been told).

Look at France as an example. Stars I believe was the first to open their doors to French players.
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07-28-2010 , 03:17 PM
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I'm assuming the states that will choose to opt out will include states like Nevada, Connecticut, maybe California, those places that have casinos that are powerful with the state's legislature?

Which legislative bodies decide that their state will opt out?
Kentucky has a track record for being against online poker, they want us to bet on the ponies.... Ky sucks
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07-28-2010 , 03:18 PM
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Which legislative bodies decide that their state will opt out?
those whose constituents have more tattoos than teeth, live in the bible belt, etc
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07-28-2010 , 03:20 PM
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First roll call vote is on the opt-in amendment by Baca.

Defeated 37-22

Second vote is on a Bachus amendment:

Defeated 43-22
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07-28-2010 , 03:25 PM
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this is confusing me what are they voting on now?
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07-28-2010 , 03:27 PM
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First roll call vote is on the opt-in amendment by Baca.
Voted down!
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07-28-2010 , 03:29 PM
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"Illegally" is the key word here, both Stars and FTP are licensed. They would not have pushed so hard for this if they didn't think they were included (at least this is what I have been told).

Look at France as an example. Stars I believe was the first to open their doors to French players.
IANAL but I think that even if Stars and FTP get counted in the ban, they'd still be able to sell/rent their brand and software to someone else.
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07-28-2010 , 03:29 PM
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If online poker does become regulated in the USA will that mean you guys will end up like France and Belgium in that only Americans can play together?
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07-28-2010 , 03:30 PM
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Final vote on HR 2267 now
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07-28-2010 , 03:31 PM
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Now is the important vote.
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07-28-2010 , 03:31 PM
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07-28-2010 , 03:33 PM
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IANAL but I think that even if Stars and FTP get counted in the ban, they'd still be able to sell/rent their brand and software to someone else.
I would think software should be able to be sold/leased through a third party.
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07-28-2010 , 03:34 PM
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07-28-2010 , 03:34 PM
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Common lets get some votes!
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07-28-2010 , 03:34 PM
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