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06-02-2023 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Lol Bill Jones will be fine

Jake probably not going to be in same tournament and even if he was Jake cannot use RTA software against him

Bill Jones doesn’t need to know chit

But he’s supposed to randomly yell at him to preserve the honor of Steven Chidwick (and others?).

Bizarre
Didn't we learn in Rounders that Bill Jones is from Canada?
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06-02-2023 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
It’s sort of like suspending a baseball player for marking cards in a gun rummy tournament
Its quite literally nothing like that.

Its more like banning an online chess cheater from playing over the board tournaments
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06-02-2023 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
Its quite literally nothing like that.

Its more like banning an online chess cheater from playing over the board tournaments
No, I believe it’s pretty much exactly like that.

Jake (allegedly) cheated in online poker in ways that he possibly cannot do so in live setting. That’s the key point.

So is WSOP supposed to:
1) Just ban him based upon random overseas entity’s determination?
2) create some investigation team of their own?

It’s just bizarre that Bill Jones is supposed to yell at Jake Schindler to protect Jason Koon. The premise is humorous.
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06-02-2023 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
No, I believe it’s pretty much exactly like that.

Jake (allegedly) cheated in online poker in ways that he possibly cannot do so in live setting. That’s the key point.

So is WSOP supposed to:
1) Just ban him based upon random overseas entity’s determination?
2) create some investigation team of their own?

It’s just bizarre that Bill Jones is supposed to yell at Jake Schindler to protect Jason Koon. The premise is humorous.
Bill Jones isn't supposed to yell at Jake Schindler to protect Jason Koon, Bill is supposed to shame Jake bc allowing a cheat to feel comfortable to continue to play sends an awful message to John Jones, Darryl Jones, Kurt Jones and Linda Jones. recs are turned off by all the cheating scandals that exist and even more turned off by the fact that rarely is anything done about it

i used to play quite a bit online and live and i don't even bother anymore. the poker community hasn't received a dime from me (a mediocre rec) in over eight yrs. why should i bother? untold hundreds of thousands? millions? every year don't enter the poker ecosystem bc ppl have the same feelings i do
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06-02-2023 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
Bill Jones isn't supposed to yell at Jake Schindler to protect Jason Koon, Bill is supposed to shame Jake bc allowing a cheat to feel comfortable to continue to play sends an awful message to John Jones, Darryl Jones, Kurt Jones and Linda Jones. recs are turned off by all the cheating scandals that exist and even more turned off by the fact that rarely is anything done about it

i used to play quite a bit online and live and i don't even bother anymore. the poker community hasn't received a dime from me (a mediocre rec) in over eight yrs. why should i bother? untold hundreds of thousands? millions? every year don't enter the poker ecosystem bc ppl have the same feelings i do
Lol leave Bill Jones out of it. The dude is on vacation and just wants to play poker.

I can almost guarantee if you told him what Jake did he wouldn’t give a chit. He would probably correctly say that anyone who plays online for significant money is an idiot. If you don’t assume people are up to something then you are a clown. Most of what sites do is ban people after the fact. But money long gone.

Now if people who feel they got robbed want to do something about it by all means. The floor is theirs. But it’s not up to the Jones’s.
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06-02-2023 , 03:50 PM
Ivey makes an appearance playing the $25k Heads-Up championship
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06-02-2023 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
the community needs to shame this clown out of Vegas. every time you see him point at him and say "why is Jack Effel allowing known poker cheats to compete?" in a voice loud enough for several tables to hear (or several ppl in the hallway, restaurant, street, etc. to hear)

he's now sitting 8th in chips w nine players remaining in an event w 1.22mm up top. shame the cretin from the premises if the WSOP and Effel aren't going to do whats right for the Series and the community

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Originally Posted by ligastar
i used to play quite a bit online and live and i don't even bother anymore. the poker community hasn't received a dime from me (a mediocre rec) in over eight yrs. why should i bother? untold hundreds of thousands? millions? every year don't enter the poker ecosystem bc ppl have the same feelings i do
So you want “the community” to publicly shame someone, in a voice “loud enough for several tables to hear”, and yet you state you haven’t been part of “the community” for over eight years.

You’ve got some fired up emotions over this for someone that’s been divorced from poker for eight years lol.
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06-02-2023 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
So you want “the community” to publicly shame someone, in a voice “loud enough for several tables to hear”, and yet you state you haven’t been part of “the community” for over eight years.

You’ve got some fired up emotions over this for someone that’s been divorced from poker for eight years lol.
i'm still part of the community as i consume poker content on the regular
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06-03-2023 , 12:12 AM
How are the cash games at Horseshoe looking so far?

Are there any dealer shortages this year or expected later in the series?
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06-03-2023 , 12:31 AM
Big Michael Moncek in 2nd with 4 left in the $5k Big Bet mix
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06-03-2023 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
How are the cash games at Horseshoe looking so far?

Are there any dealer shortages this year or expected later in the series?
It’s filled up, no available tables or dealers

Need diamond card
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06-03-2023 , 04:20 PM
Guess what that means when something like that happens on the 1st hand of the day.

The dealer didn't shuffle correctly, no scramble.



https://twitter.com/PokerNews/status...90044116496385
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06-03-2023 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
How are the cash games at Horseshoe looking so far?

Are there any dealer shortages this year or expected later in the series?
I assume the dealer shortage isnt as bad as it was last year. I was railing the stud in kings lounge and they legit said just come in and deal until they find a dealer LMAO
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06-03-2023 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
No, I believe it’s pretty much exactly like that.

Jake (allegedly) cheated in online poker in ways that he possibly cannot do so in live setting. That’s the key point.

So is WSOP supposed to:
1) Just ban him based upon random overseas entity’s determination?
2) create some investigation team of their own?

It’s just bizarre that Bill Jones is supposed to yell at Jake Schindler to protect Jason Koon. The premise is humorous.
So if I shoot somebody with a gun, you're ok with me entering a restaurant or other public facility without a gun, because I can't shoot anybody?

I think your point is WSOP should not be held accountable for online "cheating", which is fine I guess. But WSOP also offers online tournaments. Are you proposing that WSOP should ban this guy from the online events, but let him play live?
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06-03-2023 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerHero77
So if I shoot somebody with a gun, you're ok with me entering a restaurant or other public facility without a gun, because I can't shoot anybody?

I think your point is WSOP should not be held accountable for online "cheating", which is fine I guess. But WSOP also offers online tournaments. Are you proposing that WSOP should ban this guy from the online events, but let him play live?
Lol no, silly analogy in first paragraph

Regarding the 2nd, what they may or may have not done on GG has nothing to do with WSOP. They weren’t playing on WSOP.com.

But there are two components to this; while you make a reasonable view that perhaps ban from any the online events, the more important one is that it’s a completely different entity. That can ban a player on a whim and often provide no details.

At any rate, I still think imploring Bill Jones to yell at Jake Schindler in the hallway, bathroom, or wherever to help preserve Alex Foxen’s dignity is stupid lol

Last edited by ScotchOnDaRocks; 06-03-2023 at 07:00 PM.
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06-03-2023 , 09:51 PM
Something morbid in me wants to see Doug Polk vs Landon Tice in the HU final.
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06-03-2023 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
It’s filled up, no available tables or dealers

Need diamond card
i have diamond and i'm still probably not going back. getting 5 hands per down with terrible dealers and internally raging about it isn't fun healthy or profitable.
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06-04-2023 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Guess what that means when something like that happens on the 1st hand of the day.

The dealer didn't shuffle correctly, no scramble.



https://twitter.com/PokerNews/status...90044116496385
I was on that table it may be true. We were all late reggers and got put on a brand new table it was the very first hand. That dealer was actually decent the 2 that followed could barely shuffle the cards so id say low chance she just forgot to shuffle.
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06-04-2023 , 09:22 AM
Also, "forgetting to shuffle" doesn't put the Ad and Td nine cards apart, or Qh and Qc nine cards apart, or the 2h between Qd and Kd, or another card (burn) in between Qd and Jd, with the Qs two cards away from Jd.
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06-04-2023 , 09:26 AM
I am not saying forgot to shuffle, I am saying didn't scramble the deck like you have to on a brand new set up, and probably half-ass shuffle also.
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06-04-2023 , 08:17 PM
Robbi Jade Lew is in the $5k NL Freezeout
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06-04-2023 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chzbrglr
Robbi Jade Lew is in the $5k NL Freezeout
And has a top 10 stack at the moment
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06-05-2023 , 03:57 PM
Now that the WSOP cash games are in full effect, can someone who's been there post what the min/max buyins at $1/$3, $2/$5, and $5/$10 NLH are? They are not listed in Bravo.

Thanks!
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06-05-2023 , 04:02 PM
And do any of those tables have auto shufflers? And are the dealers all new to dealing?
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06-05-2023 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by chzbrglr
Robbi Jade Lew is in the $5k NL Freezeout
Just curious, are we supposed to yell at RJL if we see her in the hallway?
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