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PH, the self-proclaimed greated poker player ever, is clearly playing with ultra scared money, for whatever reason.

But to be fair, when he did make folds that others would not, they were often correct. Folded AT when up against AK and facing a pretty big reraise.

Phil tried selling his house on twitter recently:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2.../7085511_zpid/

Its not like hes living in mansions. My thought on Phil is this, hes been a break even or losing player for close to a decade. The only money hes made is from endorsements, which within the past decade have dried up tremendously - im assuming. A high stakes poker game where he has $200K on the table could very well be a decent chunk of his net worth.

And Its funny that hes not even at the table for half the show, almost as if he knows hes not +EV in this lineup and really is jjsut their for the free publicity.

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02-25-2021 , 07:52 PM

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GazzyB123

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That call from Koon is a shocker, really surprised to see him make it.

Still love him though.

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02-25-2021 , 07:56 PM

#1353

Dream Crusher

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Hellmuth's home is worth $7 million. LoL @ $200k on the table being a decent chunk of his net worth.

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02-25-2021 , 08:01 PM

#1354

Itachi1234

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remember when people said durr was broke lol meanwhile he won the most of any poker player ever

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02-25-2021 , 08:04 PM

#1355

TheFly

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher

Hellmuth's home is worth $7 million. LoL @ $200k on the table being a decent chunk of his net worth.

House poor?

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02-25-2021 , 08:15 PM

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Joe-exotic69

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher

Hellmuth's home is worth $7 million. LoL @ $200k on the table being a decent chunk of his net worth.

He could have a 6m mortgage, i dont know any sane person that would count their real estate in their poker bankroll. I wouldnt be surprised if Hellmuth was staked by Chamath.

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02-25-2021 , 08:28 PM

#1357

Dream Crusher

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Originally Posted by Joe-exotic69

He could have a 6m mortgage, i dont know any sane person that would count their real estate in their poker bankroll. I wouldnt be surprised if Hellmuth was staked by Chamath.

Poker bankroll and net worth are two completely different subjects.

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02-25-2021 , 08:38 PM

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RA!Z0R RAM0N

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ngl i thought gabe might’ve lost some steps, but been pleasantly surprised by contrary; has been ROASTING this season

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02-25-2021 , 08:39 PM

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TheFly

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher

Poker bankroll and net worth are two completely different subjects.

I think the gist of what the previous poster was saying, even if his verbiage and terminology were incorrect, was that $200K may represent a large portion of PH's available liquid capital that could possibly be used in a poker game.

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02-25-2021 , 08:42 PM

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GazzyB123

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Originally Posted by RA!Z0R RAM0N

ngl i thought gabe might’ve lost some steps, but been pleasantly surprised by contrary; has been ROASTING this season

AJ giggling away at Gabe's 10/10 commentary is genuinely terrific.

One of, if not the, best poker duos of all time.

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02-25-2021 , 09:04 PM

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SuperSwag

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PH saying he's best ever while too scared to put a chip in pot. Meanwhile Dwan is soulreading and hasn't lost a step. Also in last episode you could see Dwan eyeing Hellmuth. He knew he was scared and just waiting to get him in a pot.

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02-25-2021 , 09:33 PM

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Dream Crusher

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People seem to wrongly assume that if one has a high net worth they should be donating large sums of money into a game. They also assume that because one is a poker pro, that player should only be taking the most +EV lines.

Phil Hellmuth is not a cash game pro. He says what he's been doing has been working for the past few dozen times he has played in "big" games, and we have no reason to doubt that he's run well over that time period. He's clearly not trying to win the maximum but at the same time is not interested in dumping large amounts of money in the game either. I doubt that has anything to do with his net worth or his liquid assets though.

Last edited by Dream Crusher; 02-25-2021 at 09:38 PM.

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02-25-2021 , 10:01 PM

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Itachi1234

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can u guys stop with phill hellmuth hate jesus he has insane winrate in sitngo mtt format evan final tables and hu, like wth is wrong with u all, guys has really good reading skills how else u think he wins so much give the man a brake for not playing blind gto poker and still winning big.

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02-25-2021 , 11:02 PM

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TheFly

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Originally Posted by Itachi1234

can u guys stop with phill hellmuth hate jesus.....

PH hates Jesus?

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02-25-2021 , 11:03 PM

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pocket_zeros

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Hellmuth's ego wrote checks the other players cashed.

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02-26-2021 , 01:21 AM

#1366

borg23

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Originally Posted by Petrucci

Totally agree on season 4 being legendary. Rewatched the whole thing last week. Raisy daysing every hand is hilarious+ all the other golden comments.

To Barry Greenstein once he and Jamie Gold once again calls his preflopraise with garbage and the dealer puts out the flop.

"Alright Barry, you got two suicide bombers- me and Jamie. You wanna chop?"

And to Antonius when he stacks off 500K with the J9 for top pair.

"Haha, top pair! Half a million on top pair-bring us one more Patrik here"

"bring us another patrick" is one of the best lines ever on HSP

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02-26-2021 , 02:06 AM

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MicroDonkYT

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Originally Posted by LimpDitka

Nope. He's winning everywhere. Tournaments, cash, whatever. He's always winning. 25/26 cash games, he's a winner.

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02-26-2021 , 02:21 AM

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Bighurt52235

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Originally Posted by newguyhere

Great episode.

Last hand...

Spoiler:

I want to see Dwan win, but I was rooting for a black 5 or 6. I don't see him calling the turn purely to hit a diamond.

In disbelief that Chemical Warfare was not aware of flush possibility until Dwan showed his hand.

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02-26-2021 , 06:06 AM

#1369

oldschooled

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Durrrr just putting a clinic on these guys.

Now put in Farha and Dwan next episode and we're in for the highest rated HSP season of all time.

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02-26-2021 , 06:40 AM

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Petrucci

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Originally Posted by oldschooled

Durrrr just putting a clinic on these guys.

Now put in Farha and Dwan next episode and we're in for the highest rated HSP season of all time.

+1. Dwan is just putting on a masterclass.

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02-26-2021 , 06:43 AM

#1371

nba_guru

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Originally Posted by MicroDonkYT

Nope. He's winning everywhere. Tournaments, cash, whatever. He's always winning. 25/26 cash games, he's a winner.

You dont really believe that he won 25/26 out of his last cash game sessions do you....If so may God help you

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02-26-2021 , 07:05 AM

#1372

Petrucci

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Phil H is confirmed pretty crazy from many well known pros, and i believe he have some narsisstic personality problems. Like, i would not take everything he says for face value.

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02-26-2021 , 10:35 AM

#1373

coordi

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Pretty sure he said 25/26 of the last televised cash games, so should be pretty easy to double check.

Hard to say how much money he has. Even if his ROI isn't great, he probably hasn't had to pay for a tournament in 15 years. Hes always got multiple sponsorships going and he sells pieces afaik. I'd guess hes one of the richer TV pros though. Hed have to be dumping millions and millions into cash games to be brokeish.

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02-26-2021 , 12:32 PM

#1374

Dwan21

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Great episode, PH is a character everyone knows he isn't the best but rather him in that seat than a euro robot. A classic episode of HSP

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02-26-2021 , 02:10 PM

#1375

Kid-A

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Loved the way Phil was dreaming up all these fantastical scenarios of how he'd eventually beat Dwan in a pot, while Dwan just smiled and laughed along with it while casually winning 3/400k.
Love watching Phil.. His delusion is hilarious

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