Please don't read if you don't want to know how the hand played out.

Wait so Doug is playing on a table with Durrrr?

Will Tom accept his challenge?

This show always brings back good memories

I have to say I was feeling a little underwhelmed by its new incumbent but some of these hand grabs have made me pumped to see how it turns out. If they fix the graphics, do a good job on the commentary, and the players put on a show it could be great.

Phil is so bad at cash game poker

Yeah I don't get the shove there... Doug is a PoW but still...jeez

chamath, garrett and prahlad - would love to have them on

Why do half the people keep requesting this Garret guy? I have never seen him do anything interesting/entertaining and if you want to see someone actually good, pretty sure there are tons of better NLHE ring players

He has to charge those damn draws

He pretty good, much better than Durrr

Garrett has been playing high stakes, both live and online, for a very long time and is arguably the best deepstack cash game player in the world.

he is the 2020 version of durrrr in a lot of people’s eyes

Yeah, that's why he plays with Uncle Abe, Israeli Ron and Armenian Mike, even my sausage dog would kick their asses

Whilst I agree he is an excellent live reg I doubt he'd crack the top 200 of best 'deep cashgame players in the world'.

Give me a random 5/10 Stars reg over him any day of the week.

/pedantry

I respect that- but a random 5/10 stars reg probably doesn’t have the balls or the bankroll to bluff in six figure pots.

How much time he’s spent with pio or how balanced he is in every node in comparison to the avg MSNL stars reg is more or less irrelevant

playing $400k effective and $3k effective aren’t very comparable— regardless of the skill level of your opponents for the most part.

imo

but carry on, don’t want to derail.

Exactly this.
How many 5/10,25/50 stars reg will be comfortable to bluff or make a hero call in 200-300k+ pots which is either there entire bank roll or if they are staked they are can make some hero plays.
Mastering a node in pio and playing when so much money involved is not exactly same and also live reads matter.

some ppl dont have the stomach for big money swings, but what you're attributing to being special about garret is largely determined by bankroll. It's not a dig on garret, im sure he plays well and has made himself welcome/wanted in games ect..

but saying he's one of the best cash players bc he plays in big games while you admit he is a worse technical player makes 0 sense


and to the above poster, playing 3k effective and 300k effective, if you're rolled enough is just viewed in bb anyway. Think about moving up stakes how you viewed money on the table in absolute terms playing like 200nl vs playing 2k. A river decision amount you were agonizing over is now just your x/r.

best cash game player =/= best technical player

it may be semantics but it's all about how you define a "good poker player". If you say several attributes make up a good poker player (knowledge, implementation, intuition, live reads, experience, mental game. You can even argue things like bankroll, connections, ethics, personality should be included), Garret is going to score higher in a lot of those attributes. How one weighs those attributes is also up for debate. When people argue a good MSNL online reg is a better "poker player" than someone like Garret, I think that's usually based on "technically skill" (or a similar type attribute) being weighted extremely highly.

in regards to Gman, listen to DGAF's podcast with/about him. If you think the best live, deep, NLH ring games happen in LA & Vegas, it's clear that he is one of the top players in that circle.

Garrett has said he has all his own action...while we know guys like Durrr, Farha, Elizera pretty much all the old HSP were selling large chunks and getting sponsorships...pretty much playing with house money

Completely disagree. 5/10 Stars regs are all garbage, tbh. They're not at or near the top for good reasons. Remove all the tools at their disposal and put them in a live environment and they are very very mediocre.

DC, I like u man, but I seriously can’t get behind this take at all.

How do you even know if you’re in the U.S as well? You don’t even have access to these games.

Probably wont have the same vibe but still cool.

I see that at 1/3 all the time, guy has the nuts on the flop and is afraid of board pairing or flush competing so he shoves 5X pot LOL.

Ahh I think we are debating different things. I meant if we had a hypothetical situation where Gman and your average 5/10 Stars reg were in the same game, regardless of stakes, the Stars reg's EV would be higher because he is a better player.

In your scenario about playing biiiiig deep cash games then yeah you're absolutely right, Gman is going to be much more used to it.

Again I wanna re-iterate that I am not knocking Gman, I think he's an excellent player and very entertaining, I just think that your average online midstakes player is a better poker player overall.

Chamath Palihapitiya revealed a partial hand history between him and Dwan in the first ten minutes of this podcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA7MrXnMPpA