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08-23-2019 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Logical user
This has absolutely nothing to do with race.

There is tons of evidence that botting and real time ai is more prevalent in these parts of the world. Look at the thread in internet poker about 'corporation botfarm'. Not too long ago there was a large eastern european stable accused of using illegal software (smartspin I think?). That plus as the above poster mentions, its not good to have heaps of low stakes grinders from poorer countries ruining the experience of recs.

Of course there are people behaving unethically from all parts of the world, but that doesn't change facts.
So based on what you are saying,let's ban all the eastern europeans,right?
That makes 0 sense.If someone find bots/bots farm/cheaters etc,then poker rooms should ban all of those,not the entire country,or the entire area.

Anyway,about the corporating bot farm,i have some doubts about some accounts on stars,but since i dont have any evidence,i cant shout on anybody.There's just some accounts that played very fishy and very bad(not that i am not a fish myself) and somehow,out of nowhere they started playing like gods.
I reported in the past some players from fulltilt and last year from stars,and they said that there's no reason to suspect their unfairness.
In 2014 i reported a guy that somehow scammed the tables(dont know how),i reported it,they didnt found anything and now it's banned for using AI.
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08-23-2019 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by suzyana
Wow,what a logic!And what a rasist
Why not ban all chinese people,afro people and poor people?Why not ban all the divorced people?Why not ban women?|Why not ban curly people?
Keep all the lords and let only superior rase to play.

P.S: Unless you have any evidence that eastern europeana/russians are cheating,why dont u GTFO?
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Hi all!
I apologize in advance for my English

A few years ago I was reached by the information about the pokerbot corporation, the level and size of which I at first haven't believe. Gradually collecting information from various sources, I gathered irrefutable facts about the activities of this company.
Currently, AI (brain) of almost all bots in the internet poker is provided by the corporation BotFarm (BF).
It partially conducts its own operation, using its own trainers (shells and operators) or players (avatars). The corporation employs over 600 people. In addition, BF has about a dozen partners (who have sub-partners!), which are given quotas at different poker sites.
Main technical developments:
1. Their own AI
2. Ability to hack any SSL encryption of any room.
3. Using the video capture card for grabbing picture.
Because of 2 and 3 they are so difficult to detect.

The Corporation includes the following companies:

Neolab LLC (Omsk) ITN 5501171091 (ООО "Неолаб" Омск)
Neolab-Nsk LLC (Novosibirsk) ITN 5408011544 (ООО "Неолаб-Нск" Новосибирск)
Neolab-Msk LLC (Moscow) ITN 7724465081 (ООО "Неолаб-Мск" Москва)
Neolab-Techno LLC (Omsk) ITN 5504149168 (ООО "НТ" Омск)
Progress LLC (Omsk) ITN 5504230757 (ООО "Прогресс" Омск)

Website: www.neolab.io

All information about these companies can be found on the website https://www.rusprofile.ru
Unfortunately, only in Russian language

There is also a branch office in the USA:
https://neopokerlab.com/

The Head of the BF is Kapustin Svyatoslav Nikolaevich, owner of the Progress LLC.

BF work or cooperate with:

Peter "Peter_Rus" Vlasenko - owner of the Neolab LLC and the Neolab-Nsk LLC, in the past famous poker player, have the account in 2+2 - https://www.facebook.com/people/Петр...00009318784123
Valentin Batura - owner of the Neolab-Msk LLC. https://www.facebook.com/valentin.batura
Anton Frolov - https://www.facebook.com/people/%D0%...00002099509990
Anton "Purity" Moiseenkov, in the past famous poker player - https://www.facebook.com/aamoisseenkov
Someone Vasily "BlackRaven", the real name has not yet been found out, the lead programmer of the company.
Eugene Turushev -
https://www.facebook.com/people/Euge...00006753793571
Egorov Dmitriy - affiliate, Skrill partner - https://www.facebook.com/dyegorov

And many others from russian poker community.

The evidence will be published in the next post.

By my count, this corporation now has thousands of accounts online. On all limits of Texas and Omaha,*as well as in all tournaments. Strong Russian poker players known in the world poker community work on the game of bots.
From time to time, threads about capturing bots appear and fall off the net. And every time the players who achieved their exile and locks, rejoice in the fact that here is another bot-owner fallen. But it's not at all like that. No longer serious and independent bot-owners. There is a corporation BF, swallowed almost all of them.
BF provides quotas for the accounts for partners, offers various options for operation on any sites. BF provides the brain, and the partners performs operation, mutually beneficial conditions. Therefore, having lost part of the accounts, the corporation instantly replaces them, corrects the stats, changes the shells, and continues pumping out money.

I created this post in order to bring information about the fraudulent activities of the BF Corporation to the public, pull these people out of obscurity and tell about them to those whom they rob many years.
Besides, I plan to discuss with you the legality of the actions of the BF, the possibility of their criminal prosecution and methods confronting them.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...tfarm-1748840/

Didn't really want to bring this into NVG but you left me no choice.
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08-23-2019 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by suzyana
So based on what you are saying,let's ban all the eastern europeans,right?
Nobody wants to ban them. Some players want them moved into their own segregated low-COL player pool. That’s all.
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08-23-2019 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by okiidokii
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...tfarm-1748840/

Didn't really want to bring this into NVG but you left me no choice.
Agree with that,but i cant do anything.I read that thread as well.It's about poker rooms to take actions and ban all those bots/cheaters etc.Like i said before,i have some doubts regarding some players(that went from fishy play to god mode in few months),but since i cant bring any evidence,i cant say anything about them
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08-23-2019 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Nobody wants to ban them. Some players want them moved into their own segregated low-COL player pool. That’s all.
Eastern's money are not good for the market.
Good thinking.You must be "the funny one" on every party
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08-23-2019 , 05:23 PM
i think suzyana is a bot
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08-23-2019 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
i think suzyana is a bot
I would be the worst bot in the poker existence.
I dont even play with a HUD,which is a must.
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08-23-2019 , 06:49 PM
Another way to have players rake more by not letting 24 tabling regs swallow up the fish, this is another stab at forcing out regs and not discouraging rec players.
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08-23-2019 , 10:08 PM
Struggling grinder, who has no doubt never owned a business, earnestly tells elite businessmen how to run their multi million dollar company by extolling tactics suited to the agenda of struggling grinders

lol OP. That was pathetic. Save yourself, play 4 tables, and get a job
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08-23-2019 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by suzyana
I would be the worst bot in the poker existence.
I dont even play with a HUD,which is a must.
Not if you play GTO. Then you don't even care how they're playing.
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08-24-2019 , 08:18 AM
the one thing that doesnt need a hud because it is a full-hud is a bot
or king10
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08-25-2019 , 09:09 PM
In hindsight, we could have communicated to players more often that significant changes were coming in 2019. We could have been more explicit that these changes would be significant and would take effect in 2019. And we could have noted this on our web pages that gave details of the table changes. There was no intention to deceive and certainly not to profit from this, as an increase in the number of pro players, who are on average net withdrawing players, does not provide a financial benefit to us. It was simply a function of a long internal process and an honest belief that we had given players sufficient notice.


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08-26-2019 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeckoRiver
Another way to have players rake more by not letting 24 tabling regs swallow up the fish, this is another stab at forcing out regs and not discouraging rec players.
The less tables that are running, the less rec players want to join. This will just kill some of the trafic of regular tables, and will force people to play zoom instead.

I'm also not in favor of 24 tables (or the SNE before it), but there should be a transition period to less tables and not abrupt change to 4 or extinguishing the SNE in a few weeks notice like they did in the past.
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08-26-2019 , 07:50 PM
Why isn't stars streaming the high rollers from Barcelona?

Pique and Vidal, two players from the second best football team in the world were in the final table of the 25k.

Don't they see the interest and the production quality that the Triton Series generates? They are really dropping the ball.
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08-26-2019 , 08:39 PM
Did you really expect a bunch of money grubbing whores like stars to do anything right? Seems about standard for a 2nd rate operation.
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08-26-2019 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JackBurton

Pique and Vidal, two players from the second best football team in the world were in the final table of the 25k.

Don't they see the interest and the production quality that the Triton Series generates? They are really dropping the ball.
unbelievable. players from one of the top teams, of the most popular sport in the world .

someone pull the plus and put them out of their misery.
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08-27-2019 , 04:42 AM
did OP save stars yet?
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08-31-2019 , 04:08 AM
i think he just may have
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08-31-2019 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeckoRiver
Another way to have players rake more by not letting 24 tabling regs swallow up the fish, this is another stab at forcing out regs and not discouraging rec players.
24 tabling regs dont swallow up fish , they take too long to act and play 15 percent of hands or less from all positions. their just nits who survive of rake back and are bad for the game overall.

i dont play on stars but i think the 4 table cap will create action and maybe force players to play higher to achieve the same win rate which in turn may fill in gaps between stakes. maybe create more stakes.
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08-31-2019 , 06:32 AM
They should let people open sit more tables, and play 4 max. Especially for the less often played and unsolved game variants, theres so many different game types that a 4 table sitting cap is overly restrictive. Also for the highstakes lobby its quite bad as a player cant opensit the biggest games and it lets people w no interest in battling take the lobby.
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08-31-2019 , 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Roman
They should let people open sit more tables, and play 4 max. Especially for the less often played and unsolved game variants, theres so many different game types that a 4 table sitting cap is overly restrictive. Also for the highstakes lobby its quite bad as a player cant opensit the biggest games and it lets people w no interest in battling take the lobby.
+1, I have noticed a significant decrease in action since the new changes have been implemented, as I'm sure you have too. This change actually appears to be quite bad for the games, as in, I think even Stars bottom line may suffer here.
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08-31-2019 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
did OP save stars yet?
much humor packed into those few words

well played
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08-31-2019 , 01:45 PM
They should hire Alec Torelli.
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09-03-2019 , 09:22 PM
the only dream/hope we can have of something like the old stars back is for partypoker to acquire a proper software like the old fulltilt to allow proper multitable.
as a company stars make more money with casino and sports , why will they change.
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09-04-2019 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mrmartins
the only dream/hope we can have of something like the old stars back is for partypoker to acquire a proper software like the old fulltilt to allow proper multitable.
Wrong. partypoker are completely incompetent and gave way too much power to someone just as incompetent but knows how to talk the talk. The truth will all come out soon.

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Originally Posted by mrmartins
as a company stars make more money with casino and sports
Wrong again.
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