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Have you noticed that the mainstream media has stolen the phrase "All IN"? Have you noticed that the mainstream media has stolen the phrase "All IN"?

03-06-2016 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bumpnrun
Whether or not the American value system "accept poker" or not has little to do with whether they use their jargon. The popularity of a particular phrase is all to do with how apt it is for the current situation

Poker jargon is at times brilliant in this regard. Tilted/tilting is amazing. I think "bricking/bricks/bricked" will catch on to be used in non poker situations. "Went for two job interviews. Totally bricked" etc

And other stuff like nitroll deserves to flourish too.
Not to derail the thread, (lol), but i was playing basketball with my son and when he went to shoot, i yelled "brick", he just looked at me dumbfounded. Apparently, these days, " whack" is the appropriate phrase to use. Who Knew?
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03-07-2016 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
In New Yorker Magazine columnist Ian Crouch thought the phrase was relevant and newsworthy enough to write an article about it 6 months ago. Here is an excerpt from that article:

... {All In}gets tossed into headlines every time a politician decides to try to do something. In just the past year, President Obama has been said to have been all in on free trade, climate change, and criminal-justice reform. In April, the Washington Post reported that Hillary Clinton had gone “all-in on gay marriage.” In May, Clinton was, according to MSNBC, going “all in on immigration reform.” In July, Fusion said that Bernie Sanders was going “all-in on the $15 minimum wage.” A few weeks ago, Salon argued that Donald Trump had gone “all in on right’s latest insanity.” More recently, NBC News announced that Jeb Bush, true to his hashtag promise, was planning to go “all in against Donald Trump.”...

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cul...l-in-on-all-in
To the detractors, the bottom line is the above use of "all in" (to this excessive degree) is something that is new. This "amount" of use by the media just didn't happen 4 years ago and certainly not 8 years ago. Yes, it might have been used before that by poker players in their general conversation but I'd bet you couldn't find one example of it being used by the media in let's say 1992. Bottom line is the media started using the word after the poker craze and its use seems to be increasing as evidenced by the above excerpt.
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03-07-2016 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
To the detractors, the bottom line is the above use of "all in" (to this excessive degree) is something that is new. This "amount" of use by the media just didn't happen 4 years ago and certainly not 8 years ago.
From the article you seem to like so much:

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In 2006, when Alex Rodriguez wanted to assure Yankees fans that the team was serious about winning, he said, “To use a poker term, we’re all in. This is the most urgent we’ve been. It’s going to be exciting.”
I know, that's just one reference. But if it was being used in such a mainstream manner 10 years ago, it makes your claim of an exponential increase in the last year a little harder to believe IMO.

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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
Yes, it might have been used before that by poker players in their general conversation but I'd bet you couldn't find one example of it being used by the media in let's say 1992.
If you want to shift the goalposts and instead talk about the increase in its use over the last 24 years, this would be a much different conversation. No one's disagreeing that its use has increased over that time span - most of us are disagreeing that "...the phrase (within mainstream culture) has increased exponentially in the last year. Certainly the last 2 years."

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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
Bottom line is the media started using the word after the poker craze and its use seems to be increasing as evidenced by the above excerpt.
Yes, it may well have increased somewhat over the last year; that happens with phrases. This is threadworthy?
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03-07-2016 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
Yeah, but the expression "all in" had a different meaning back then, it meant tired or worn out. Today as it is used by the media it has more of the meaning poker gave it. The article I cited in post #9 by Ian Couch explained it this way:

"In American usage, the phrase “all in” began as a colloquial expression meaning to be in a bad spot—exhausted, worn out, and spent. In the game of poker, it refers to the moment when a player—whether out of bravado, recklessness, or desperation—bets all of his or her chips on a single hand."
The merriam webster link I provided lists an alternate definition of "allowing almost any technique or method", which fits with the colloquial usage that people attribute to NL holdem but actually predates it.
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03-07-2016 , 03:26 AM
so clearly the goal is to get GTO out there next .
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03-07-2016 , 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
Yes, it seems that lately everybody and their brother is using the poker expression "All In". That seems kind of strange considering Black Friday. What is it America do you like poker or not?

Lately, I've been hearing the "All in" expression from Sunday Morning News shows to the afternoon Doctor shows to sports interviews. It has gotten to the point of being like the "on the same page" cliche of 15 years ago and the "that's awesome" phrase of 20 years ago. Come on America, if you are going to steal our "all in" wording at least support online poker.
I'll take an ounce of whatever this guy is smoking please.
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03-07-2016 , 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
The merriam webster link I provided lists an alternate definition of "allowing almost any technique or method", which fits with the colloquial usage that people attribute to NL holdem but actually predates it.
I think the current usage of "all in" in the media means "totally committed" to something just like a poker player has totally committed all of his chips. You can be totally committed to something or "all in" and yet not be willing to use almost any technique or method to achieve your objective.
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03-07-2016 , 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by tc0ates
I'll take an ounce of whatever this guy is smoking please.
Explain.
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03-07-2016 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
Explain.
Explain why you think "on the same page" and "that's awesome" are expressions from 15-20 years ago? What makes you think the mainstream usage of "all-in" has increased in the last two years? Why do you care?

And I definitely want to hear why you think someone should "back poker" if they use a poker-derived phrase?

By your logic, I can only use the expression "i'll nuke it" when I warm up something in a microwave if I support nuclear warfare.
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03-07-2016 , 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
...No one's disagreeing that its use has increased over that time span - most of us are disagreeing that "...the phrase (within mainstream culture) has increased exponentially in the last year. Certainly the last 2 years."...
I disagree, I think the "all in" expression has increased greatly in the last 2 years and the excerpt I cited earlier from the New Yorker:

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"{All In}gets tossed into headlines every time a politician decides to try to do something. In just the past year, President Obama has been said to have been all in on free trade, climate change, and criminal-justice reform. In April, the Washington Post reported that Hillary Clinton had gone “all-in on gay marriage.” In May, Clinton was, according to MSNBC, going “all in on immigration reform.” In July, Fusion said that Bernie Sanders was going “all-in on the $15 minimum wage.” A few weeks ago, Salon argued that Donald Trump had gone “all in on right’s latest insanity.” More recently, NBC News announced that Jeb Bush, true to his hashtag promise, was planning to go “all in against Donald Trump.”...
-- is some evidence.
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03-07-2016 , 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tc0ates
Explain why you think "on the same page" and "that's awesome" are expressions from 15-20 years ago?
Those are just estimates when those expressions started to have increased usage in culture. The "that's awesome" phrase probably came into increased usage longer than 20 years ago, but I was just estimating. But the fact is I rarely if ever heard that phrase growing up and then all of the sudden it was everywhere. I'll try to get to your other points as time permits.
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03-07-2016 , 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
I disagree, I think the "all in" expression has increased greatly in the last 2 years and the excerpt I cited earlier from the New Yorker:

-- is some evidence.
Thanks for restating exactly what you said before; it makes things much clearer. I'm pretty sure if you assert your point of view several more time, it will become true.

Since there's no real evidence either way (a few examples is hardly evidence), I guess you'll be going around in circles with everyone about this until they all tire of it; I'm already there. Still have no idea why you think this is important or in any way threadworthy.
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03-07-2016 , 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bumpnrun
And other stuff like nitroll deserves to flourish too.
"Nitroll" will be huge 10 years from now, if we do our part and help it survive.

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Originally Posted by tc0ates
I'll take an ounce of whatever this guy is smoking please.
To get the same effect, you'd need to roll it in old copies of the New Yorker that you've read 10 times.

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Originally Posted by fishfood69er
so clearly the goal is to get GTO out there next .
GMC has the rights, acquired from John Nash in the '60s.

Last edited by BadlyBeaten; 03-07-2016 at 06:25 AM.
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03-07-2016 , 06:29 AM
Government here in the UK uses it to push their workplace pensions, using the tagline "We're all-in!"
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03-07-2016 , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tc0ates
What makes you think the mainstream usage of "all-in" has increased in the last two years?
Personal observation, and the objective evidence shown in post #9.

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Why do you care?
I just think it's kind of hypocritical for society as a whole to be against internet poker and yet society and the media constantly proves poker is very much ingrained in our culture by consistently using numerous poker expressions (and increasingly so) in everyday life. Hell, even Jeb Bush (a conservative who is probably against internet poker) used the poker expression "all in" to a great extent in his campaign.
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03-07-2016 , 08:25 AM
Great idea. I've drafted a little letter for you to send to Obama.

Dear Obama,

Since the phrase 'all-in' is mainstream now, you should legalize online poker.

Love,

Well Read Ted
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03-07-2016 , 08:28 AM
It's kind of interesting that you equate the words all-in to internet poker. It seems to be related to poker (mainly live) and poker seems to be part of American culture much more than online poker and poker obviously isn't illegal.

Now that we're on a roll, we should get Obama to legalize guns since the phrase 'with guns blazing' is pretty common. Also, there's the phrase 'balls to the wall' so.....

Last edited by blackchilli; 03-07-2016 at 08:34 AM.
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03-07-2016 , 11:45 AM
I hear Jimmy "Gobboboy" Fricke is all-in whenever he goes to McDonald's =)
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03-07-2016 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by blackchilli
poker seems to be part of American culture much more than online poker and poker obviously isn't illegal.
" in Arizona, ... no-limit cash games aren’t legal. You can enter a no-limit tournament without issue, but you can’t play no-limit cash games.

Why? The Arizona Revised Statutes. ... Arizona says the most you can bet at one time in a poker game is $500. So what do we do? We play spread limit...

Here is the confusing part: You can play against poker peers and bet $500, but if you play blackjack you can max bet $1,000."


So, in AZ, you can drink in a bar, while carrying a concealed pistol, cocked and locked and loaded with 17 rounds of .40 S&W, as a "constitutional right," but you can't bet more than $500 on a game of cards.
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03-07-2016 , 12:10 PM
IM AWWWW IN BABY!!! ONE TIME!!!!!!
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03-07-2016 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
Oh, come on, the phrase (within mainstream culture) has increased exponentially in the last year. Certainly the last 2 years.
broke poker players are trying to make a living in mass media
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03-07-2016 , 01:05 PM
Wrestling term long before poker



1926
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03-07-2016 , 02:00 PM
all i know is my wife calls me a fish if i **** something up now. and it's awesome.
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03-07-2016 , 02:12 PM
yes, i have noticed that the plebs use that expression a lot lately, and it usually makes me cringe.
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03-07-2016 , 02:17 PM
"Mainstream media" is more overused than "all-in" IMO.
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