Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills

04-24-2016 , 02:13 AM
I would have taken the Google offer. I'd rather have Google RSU's than Airbnb RSU's, at whatever bloated valuation they are giving their people. Google also looks far better on your resume. 'Ex-Googler' opens so many doors.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 05:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by swd805
Browsed a little through his blog, and I think he is either mentally ill or has personality disorders.
that was pretty much the consensus after his last appearance with his book and the forum thread. maybe nothing unmanageable, but attractive for internet forums. (also, of course, very possibly untrue, since it's internet diagnosed. and it could be one big level since there's no such thing as bad press)
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 05:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhawkdown
Google also looks far better on your resume. 'Ex-Googler' opens so many doors.
This. The long term value of Software Engineer @ Google on your resume exceeds the immediate monetrary benefits from any other company by far.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 06:36 AM
So, guy goes on tons of interviews, finally gets a positive one, then one more positive one, then broadcasts that, then all the ones that were negative all of a sudden want him (including google which must have been significant), then he plays them all for best salary.

But, only thing I'm missing: English major? No professional coding experience? What are they hiring him to do?
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 06:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monorail
"Airbnb returned with a new offer worth $250,000 ($130K salary, 25K signing, 95K a year in RSUs). He took the job."

Obv depends on what strings are attached to the restricted stock units (eg vesting schedule, redemption rights), but yeah they're super illiquid. "95K" isn't quite a "made-up" number, but it's murky AF.
The $95K could easily be a pretty "made up number". Doubt they got a third party valuation company to come in and value the stock for the purpose of this. And even if they did, still an issue. Plus the restrictions are obviously important to figure an actual value, but then there are multiple factors to go into there.

It is obviously extremely illiquid. There is just about 0 market for it of course. But more so, I bet that he is not allowed to sell it, at least for a while. I assume there is a transfer restriction.

Last edited by Lego05; 04-24-2016 at 06:47 AM.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 07:14 AM
guys it's all about how much he can donate to charity didn't u catch that from the 47 times he mentioned it?

he's super generous and only wants to earn to give.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 07:48 AM
DOGISHEAD :x>
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 08:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sinner
its worth noting that silicon valley is doing everything they can to hire non-white non-asian engineers. like SAT scores, the bar is set much much lower if you're not asian or white.
What a moron you are. Haseeb is Asian. Silicon Valley is FULL of south Asians. If anything, he would be among the most disadvantaged if they were trying to implement your fantasy affirmative action hiring policies.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 08:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KingOfLoss
What a moron you are. Haseeb is Asian. Silicon Valley is FULL of south Asians. If anything, he would be among the most disadvantaged if they were trying to implement your fantasy affirmative action hiring policies.
Actually, I thought that was his point.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 09:53 AM
"[Google] tried to set me up for a 211, ****ed around and got caught up in a 1-2-7...with additional compensation of restricted stock options and a one-time signing bonus."
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 10:08 AM
Cliffs on DiH

Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 10:26 AM
F. Scott Quereshi??
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 11:32 AM
looks like his salary is 130k and one time signup bonus 25k. not sure what the other fluff is, but wouldn't include that. might as well include the free dry cleaning and smoothies they provide too?
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 12:31 PM
please just dont believe anything he sais/writes.

guy is a blatant liar, in before shill accounts and ex-hookers.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 01:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wombat4hire
Cliffs on DiH
uh excuse me, this is cyber bullying and I don't see any trigger warnings.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 01:42 PM
I've worked in tech for ~5 years and negotiate as a significant part of my job. I don't follow HQ other than seeing this on HN but this is all totally plausible. The Google offer is equivalent to ~$210k in salary cash so more accurate to consider starting there.

Here's some things about this post that aren't obvious:
-This is in Silicon Valley. Generally you need to discount 40-50% of the salary compared to other areas depending on what you value (for example lots of student loans make being in SV better). HQ mentions this. So $210k cash salary is more like $110k.

-The perception / negotiation stuff. Huge majority of the population is terrible at negotiation (or rather just uncomfortable with it), companies spend an enormous amount to employ you you don't see beyond your salary (payroll, interview time for all candidates, healthcare, perks). By the time you've gone through technical interviews they've invested thousands of dollars in employee time costs alone. At the higher levels, the difference another $50k-$100k a year is trivial if they feel you are the right candidate.

-Experience is generally meaningless from an employers perspective. That 3-5 years experience bullet you see on job postings is total bull**** meant to screen those who aren't confident. Motivated, engaged people can learn nearly anything and then outperform someone who has "put in the time". Notice how all the interviews focused on CS skills and not as much his RoR, technical knowledge. Smart employers get this.

-People assume large employers know how to hire based on some magical credentials. What actually matters is HQ demonstrated his commitment to CS, his motivation, his value (after the offer) and his intelligence. I did nearly the exact same thing post poker in 1 year, barely any experience and no degree.

-Tech industry is primarily about innovation. The stuff we're working on now will be irrelevant in 3 years. Your ability to learn, adapt and change is much more important than what you know. Not all industries are like this, but some beyond tech do function like this. What this means for employment is that an employee with a very high upside potential is much more valuable than someone who will just "do a good job," even if a larger % fail out. In industries like this, the non-traditional genius brand is very highly valued.

-Google doesn't have a good reputation as a place to work right now from what I can tell. Giving up cash for better quality of life (no commute in SF is huge) and better work fit is a very intelligent move. The non-traditional genius doesn't compromise themselves to max out on cash.

Last edited by cwar; 04-24-2016 at 01:56 PM.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by housenuts
Whats his story

I remember that name
he was one of blom's first casualties
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 05:56 PM
If it's on Haseeb Quereshi's blogpost it must be true
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 06:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glennis
I don't think anyone think of that prop bet when they hear his name,
I do, it contributed in a huge way to him leaving poker (the bigger thing being the Girah scandal obviously).

His write up of that prop bet story is somewhat self serving but very entertaining and informative.

Before the prop bet and Girah scandal he was a very well respected MSNL/HSNL heads up player going by the name of dogishead and posted frequently on here.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 06:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glennis
I don't think anyone think of that prop bet when they hear his name,
I used to play against him heads up at 25/50 and that prop bet is still one of the first things I think of when I hear his name.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 06:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lego05
So, guy goes on tons of interviews, finally gets a positive one, then one more positive one, then broadcasts that, then all the ones that were negative all of a sudden want him (including google which must have been significant), then he plays them all for best salary.

But, only thing I'm missing: English major? No professional coding experience? What are they hiring him to do?
I heard that Girah was playing on his account during the interviews...
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 07:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrickyD
I used to play against him heads up at 25/50 and that prop bet is still one of the first things I think of when I hear his name.
i used to play against him heads up at 50/100 and the first thing i think of is how he splits his range on lock down boards without the initiative.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 08:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tdc0
According to the article his salary is only $130k/year. He got a one-time $25k signing bonus and some RSUs. $130k for a entry-level software dev in SF is pretty standard. But Airbnb is not public, those RSUs are not liquid. Trying to estimate the value of RSUs before a liquidity event is a fool's game, there's all kinds of trickery the execs and investors can use to dilute or claw back your shares. I've heard there is a secondary market for illiquid shares in startups but who knows if they're giving you a fair deal. Then add into the fact that SF is expensive as all hell. Even on $130k you can only live comfortably there if you're single or a DINK with no debt, don't mind living in a dilapidated shoebox, taking gross public transit everywhere, rarely going out and not having any hope of owning anything but a starter condo. Then add the fact that you're probably in the 28% tax bracket (and don't forget CA income tax) and it starts to look like less of a good deal. But hey, good on him for being successful in something he set out to do.
Jeez I thought you were exaggerating but not really (http://blog.sfgate.com/pender/2014/0...-the-bay-area/). San Francisco's household income was around $83k in 2014 so I guess that means the majority of people there are renting shoeboxes.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 09:06 PM
Is the Girah story on Haseebs website the real story or a huge whitewash? He claims all he did was try to help Girahs story from going public.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote
04-24-2016 , 11:17 PM
This is the real story.

A poker player named Jose Macedo tricked Haseeb and Jungle into believing he was a High Stakes savant, when really he was a losing midstakes player. The charade went on for months and they pimped him out for sponsorships and thread cred.

Or, the three of them decided to run a big scam for multi-accounting.
Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Quote

      
m