I am not saying this happened, just proposing a possibility. Luda tanked for quite a while before making the 4bet call. Maybe the cards are not set up and the players hands are indeed random, but maybe they have access to knowing the flop cards or the whole run out. Even just knowing the flop is a massive advantage of course. Luda is waiting for confirmation of the flop, when he finds out it will be K 8 8, he calls knowing he is going to flop trips.

Again, just stating a possibility, nothing more.

This story is absolutely nothing. It's the most non-story incident I have ever seen in poker.

Things are as slow as they have ever been regarding poker news. So any kind of drama is very welcome currently. Drama is fun. There really is no other poker drama going on so something like this will be magnified way more then normal. The only ongoing drama threads on 2+2 right now are some super user and bot contraversies that are incredibly dull, unless you are personally involved.

This AA hand in question happens all the time at poker rooms everywhere. There is nothing unusual about it in anyway. Luda took a shot at taking it down preflop with a weird 3-bet. He got 4-bet and called then hit the flop. I'm sure the calling of the 4-bet is not "correct" based on stack sizes and probably not "GTO" in any way. He was calling any 4-bet that wasn't gigantic, I knew that before GT ever reraised. This is live poker for gods sake, lots of players, even good players make that call. It's a great spot to "give action" It's a fun spot, he knows where is in the hand, really not too hard to call that $13k and play the hand post flop. Hope to hit a good draw or combo draw and gamble a little or maybe hit yahtzee like he did.

This GT guy it seems had bad luck and results before on the stream. Probably had some friends who read stories (Robbie, etc) and GT got a little weary. Then he loses with AA in this spot and goes off. If this is the whole story GT is way in the wrong for saying that stuff on stream and Ryan , Nick, HCL should be mad at the guy. If I was involved in the stream I certainly wouldn't let him play again,

Regarding Luda and his play. From what I've seen on HCL he knows how to play, he knows what he is doing. Not as good of a player as the good pro's in the games, but way better then the average recreational player. Seems to have pretty good feel and could probably play even better if he wanted too, but likes to play hands and gamble some, nothing crazy though. If he played in a tough game with mainly pro's he would lose long term, but in these HCL games I think he would be a winner long term.

I believe this. He's up like 350k in 3-4 sessions this year. Everytime he gets one of these cooler type hands against his opponents he's getting a massage from the same woman. The signal could be coming from her. That's why he was letting this GT berate and accuse him. That way if or when checked he's clean. Players get "checked" or wanded down to play. I've never seen them "check" the other people that randomly walk in and out of that room. I believe the whole stream is a charade. Dealers included. Magic use to deal at the bike on steam. Then he pops up at Hustler.

check hand at 2:40:00. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWfmWkvUV6k&t=7762s

if Baba bets the flop, Mariano will stack him, if he checks, Airball will stack him.

Before that Gaston got stacked KK vs Ago against another member of Hustler family.

I still don't think she cheated or she only cheated that one hand. But I wouldn't be shocked if there is cheating on the show or on any stream for that matter especially in most states where regulations on these shows is a joke.


HCL uses deck mate 2s which can be used to set the decks. There is still the issue of cutting the deck though but someone good could nail the cut perfectly quit often. And when they kiss you just play normally that hand.

What does cherry picking random hands accomplish? You can say this for a ton of hands on stream off steam online etc.

Lol, now the old song makes sense. Kenny Rogers was ahead of his time.

HCL is probably just some huge money laundering operation

GTs complaint mirrors the "I've seen way too many things" paranoid complaints that flow about online poker and make it impossible to get attention when there's actually cheating. He just happens to be playing in the shadiest poker game around which is run by weasels, so it has legs.

The hand looks super standard and you know GT has a huge hand when he puts in the 4 bet so flopping well means you double up. Chris also is almost always willing to gamble so the extra 13k is a very easy "**** it" decision to make.

Classic 2p2 analogy as well, love it! All we need is onepac/jesse in here denying he drugged players with Perky (heir to the Washington Nationals) at the Tank game in LA and it will be just like good ole times.

Like I said it has been discussed on here that Luda comes from money and having a roommate at 40 is not even circumstantial evidence of cheating, let alone a smoking gun.

BUT 2p2 culture is all about breaking real cheating scandals, so if you have any new evidence, other than a single hand played against a hot-headed fish — I will write a glowing post here sincerely praising you and calling you an absolute genius like NoahSD and Trampoline are.

Do you have any new evidence? I am chomping at the bit to see it.

If 2 guys in their 40s who have more than enough money to buy their own house living together they've more than roommates. Having a "roommate" may not be evidence but covering it up is.

Difficult to pick up sarcasm on the internet but you do know Postle cheated ?

Garrett likely has several good points of contention, but he's such a terrible orator and debater he'll never properly make his points known. Feldman/Verducci are much more skilled at playing the manipulative politician role. Garrett would have to hire a mediator to argue side to ever stand a chance.

Honey, you are regular nuclear meltdown. You better cool off.

GT acting like an idiot with an over-the-top overreaction.

i think they were roommates years ago when they were grinding 2/5 nl. LA is also super expensive. So probably more like early to mid 30s. It's not uncommon for people this age to have roommates in places like NYC or LA.

Just saw the AA hand. What a baby. Anyone with decent volume has seen this kind of thing happen when some guy splashing around just gets lucky. It just happens to be for a lot of money.

Compare this to other situations with known cheaters and suspected cheaters. Min raising with the best hand inexplicably, hero calling with hands that lose even to bluffs like jack high. Not just talking about Robbi which isn't proven, but when online players have been able to see opponents' hole cards, they make plays like that.

Peeling flops while putting in way too much of you stack with 2 suited cards that absolutely should have been folded pre and binking a hand happens all the time.

If you are in your late 30s/early 40s and have a roommate and youre not gay, you need to reevaluate you life.

One hand isn't really evidence unless it's something outrageous like folding kings to a single raise, but isn't Luda vpiping over 60% yet crushing? I can see how that would make people leary. To make matters worse HCL is shady AF so people are gonna be quicker to assume their being cheated

Liars and conmen usually are good at those things. We also live in a society where the guy that talks the loudest and has the more elaborate word salad is more likely to be believed.

100%

Lmao finding out mad ppl in the thread moved out of their roommate situation like "I'd better leave before I start banging him"

The whole show has been a huge conflict in interest ever since LATB. I was appalled years ago to see the owners of LATB playing then.

Nothing has changed now. In a game where hundreds of thousands of dollars change hands, show owners play, and roommates/lovers of the owners play.

No wonder GT is sus.

For anybody thinking there is not a conflict, why do you think court judges recuse themselves from cases in which there is a pre-case relationship with either party?

Although the show is enjoyable to watch, I’m surprised the gaming commission hasn’t shut this thing down yet.

wat

lol you think huge money laundering operations make it a habit to broadcast what they're doing?