Edited live broadcast vid of incident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcAwdblkb9s

Reddit thread where discussion over stats https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...n_492148_9556/

https://twitter.com/edenrockscorp/st...25374688280630

theres a twitter space happening right now with some of the key players involved discussing the issue

HCL is corrupt no doubt in my mind but in this case i think Luda is just a donk on a heater

Someone could post the images of Garrett’s messages in this thread or create a complete new one, I think he got a bit emotional and revealed/hinted alot about the shadiness of Feldman and the ”Hustler family”.

1. Feldman and Luda were roommates but Feldman hid it from LATB Co-owner
2. Luda killed the games at LATB when they played 20x bigger and played completely different style
2.b) Luda got banned from LATB
2.c) Feldman was begging to let Luda back in the games
3. Some shady home games
4. Some shady app games

yeah he's just a wild LAG

The voice call between Feldman and Garrett got completely out of hand

This is getting spicy, Vertucci is calling him a B*tch and scumbag, piece of sh*t, etc
Calling him a F*ck, a b*tch

lol

A weasel, calling him out for taking the 130 from Robbi, telling him to STFU

This Eden guy is unbearably bad at hosting/doing a show

Highlights? (I'm not a position where I can listen.)

From the video by itself, this strikes me as a nothingburger – not all that different from Hellmuth blowing up then saying "you gave me XX" to the dealer. No one literally thinks some WSOP dealer cooked up a cooler to deliver Hellmuth a bad beat for TV blah blah.

However, GT hints that a) this has happened numerous times, and b) others have warned him not to come to the game. So I am a little curious to know the basis of these concerns. Of all games that could be suspicious, it seems one streamed live for five, six, eight hours at a time would be the easiest to examine. (Joe Ingram, please report to the white courtesy phone.)

As for Vertucci's speech defending HCL, that's also pretty much expected no matter how honest or crooked HCL is.

I have no clue who Luda is or how he plays or why Asian guys try to come up with screen names to sound cool when everyone knows we're not. If he won hands like this time after time, then yeah, something to see here. So I'm curious to know how much history he has with shady hands, if any.

Nick saying "All the legends, all the heros cheated and have been cheating for year, I don't wanna name names..."

He's such a scumbag, you can't say that and say "But I don't wanna go too deep or talk about it"

Luda doesn't even run good that often. He's on a heater this week he's not cheating. GT is a massive Nit so Luda probably had an easy read on him.

Isn't Luda up like over a million playing 65/45?

Found an interesting reddit thread about Luda and Ryan

https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...eldman_he_has/

yes every saw this during the robbi stuff. including the the guy who lost the hand. Clearly someone close to this guy warned him based on this post or he saw it himself. but he choose to sat down anyway and got mad. dont play if you think its a scam

Didn't Luda lose a **** ton before the current upswing?

Definitely a sick read to flop trips in a 4 bet pot,but yeah definitely just seems like some donk Luda hand.

Accusing Luda of cheating due to that hand equals accusing the casino of cheating, or at a minimum the dealer.

I think he might be cheating gravity cuz I know he was born but he looks like someone inflated him.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Feldman and Vertucci are in on the cheating. That’s what the biggest con artists do, they make the victim think they are their friend (”Hustler family”) and someone they can trust until they are squeezed out of every penny.

I remember btnclicker getting coolered vs Nik Airball for massive pot and never seen on the stream again. Tony G had his aces cracked vs. Nik but got away on the turn.

Maybe they were done with Garrett and wanted to clean him. Knowing Garret’s ultra competitive nature, I think it would have been extremely difficult to stop playing in a juicy line up even if he gets beat up day after day. Robbi just made a blunder and gave everything away.

Alot of the millionares have stopped playing on the stream. Alot of players in general have stopped to play on the stream. It’s poker so many of them might be broke also.

You only need to deal a couple of setup hands every night in the big games to make massive amounts of profit. The profit Feldman and Vertucci are making from the actual show is pennies compared to what they would be making from the cheating.

It’s confirmed that Vertucci has a scammer’s past. Feldman has been around forever and no one really seems to say a bad word about him except Garrett. But in my local poker community we had a high stakes player who was liked by everyone, he turned out to be a huge scammer and gambling addict.

I wouldn't trust playing for big money on a stream.

With that said isn't Airball BURIED on stream?

Coolering button clicker and sucking out aces doesn't mean he cheated at all. Mentioning those hands is pretty redicilous. Airball plays all the time . Sometimes he's gonna cool someone off and sometimes he's gonna crack aces.

Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if one day we have a cheating scandal from a streamed big money tournament. But neither of those hands is indicative of any cheating.

Well if he loses big pots to players who are part of the cheating ring also, that would make the game look more legit. Of course this all is quite unlikely but that’s the way to do it to not arise any suspicion.

If they have the ability to doctor the order of the deck somehow, they can create set ups at will for any player they want without them even being in on the scam. If you have a good reg on the stream whos not involved in the scam why not set him up against the random donk who will just gift all the winnings out to the rest of the table over the next couple of sessions?

This whole game seems dodgy as ****. How are people willingly playing in games run by a literal known scammer? I actually didnt think Robbi cheated initially but now Im starting to think she actually did, just that shes more stupid than the usual scam players and almost blew the lid on the whole thing.

I was listening to the conversation between Garret and Ryan on spaces - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2iORrALIhc

I don't think anyone comes out of this well and that includes Garret but I have to say Feldman comes across as someone who would do anything for self preservation and is clearly very good at lying and manipulation. He is the type of person you don't get into arguments with because he is will drag you down to his level and then say anything to obfuscate the truth and steer the conversation in particular directions.

Just to pick out a very specific example but the whole conversation is littered with this stuff. Garret asks him did he prepare Nik Airball for his appearance on Doug's podcast.

Ryan's answer - "I don't ****ing know, probably"

How could anyone trust someone that answers questions in this way and he does it multiple times throughout the conversation.

Yeah that is something a bit concerning. I've seen Luda play both on HCL and LATB and considered him a LAGtard whale. Him being profitable+banned+secret roommates with Ryan, and continuing that hot stretch over at HCL while playing that style of poker is something that I'm taking with a pinch of salt. Could he be experiencing positive variance? Yes. Are the HCL staff a bunch of crooks and pieces of ****? Yes... So draw your own conclusions.

Honestly way more people whose results are surprising then Luda. Jboggs up 500k for instance. I guess they could be shuffling money around as a group to divert suspicion but more people equals more issues and someone gets disgruntled and turns on everyone usually in stealing/cheating.

JBoogs plays like a nit and is nut-peddaling the s**t out of others. When playing against 65vpip maniacs who limp/4b/call 5bet is it really that big of a surprise that he's up? Or is it a surprise that the guy who plays like your average -15bb/100 whale is up lifetime on both streams that he's played? Hosted by his roommate boyfriend...