luuuuuul

read the story again.

hey i have a serious question for you guys. if roc played hockey before, would that erase the AUTOMATIC TOUGH GUY points that fbt has and perhaps make fbt shook? what if roc played football, does that award more or less AUTOMATIC TOUGH GUY POINTS than playing hockey?

even in my book unless he was a punter...

This thread is ****ing hilarious.

was it this guy?

I don't doubt that Greg Mueller is a good guy, but I don't like the tone of this post. You ignore internet inbreds; you don't post your opinion and then pronounce your opponents to be unworthy of debate.

If Crazy Street Person isn't worth your time, don't stop to talk to him. Simple.

rofl Shaniac you are so pathetic and disgusting

I know hockey is known for fights breaking out, but come on there's no way just because someone played hockey means they are automatically good in a fight. Thats ******ed.

It means at the very least that there is a high probability that they are experienced which should count for a lot. One doesnt get to a high level in hockey w/o getting into a bunch of fights on the way. Maybe he lost all of them, but the experience is a big advantage.

Some hockey players aren't much for fighting but they should still have some experience in the occasional scrap and even that counts for something (I've never really been in a fight ever).

The european leagues I believe have significantly less fighting than what we may be used to in Canada or the U.S. but I'm not 100% positive of that.So just because he played professionally over there doesn't really mean anything.

The fact that he's from Canada and, I would guess, played juniors up there is more evidence of his potential fighting ability (from way back in the day) then the fact that he played professionally in the wide-open ice of the German No-Hit League (just a guess...again, I'm not really sure if it's that lacking in physicality or not).

zona - You can go straight to the German league following a 4 year stint playing NCAA hockey in the U.S. and there is very little fighting in American college hockey.
Getting in fights is not necessarily a requirement to playing professionally in a European league with a ton more ice and room to move than U.S./Canada hockey.I will say that the one guy I know who played in the German league I did see get in 1 or 2 scraps in his 4 year collegiate career.

I agree there's a good chance Mueller is somewhat experienced with SOME fighting somewhere in there. But just because he can play hockey doesn't make it a guarantee.

European leagues have ALOT less fighting, yes.

He knocked over the guys chip stack. For those who don't view evolution as something that just happened to other people, this is not something it makes any sense to get into a fist fight over.

Anyone who seriously considers throwing punches because someone touches their chips needs anger management classes and some further socialisation to learn how to function in society.

Wasnt taliking about fighting at the professional level, even NHL has a lot of players who dont fight. More about the fighting one experiences on his way there, 15-21.

Having to deal with the Cops and a civil suit is -ev. FBT did the right thing

Why is it that Roc plays in the biggest games at Commerce, yet drives an old, red Tercel?

because people value different things in life, maybe he doesn't need a penis inflator just yet since he gets the ladies anyway?

Picture of this roc fella?

Why would you touch another man's money? Thats just asking to get messed up.

zona - American college hockey players don't fight very much.
The guy I know played in college from the age of 19-22 or something I believe and maybe had 1 fight I think and it certainly wasn't much to get excited about.
There is more fighting in the juniors hockey for 14-18 year olds I guess.

Regardless, the implication was that you just aren't getting to a highish level league such as Germany without having some decent fighting experience and I just don't think that's necessarily true. It's possible you picked up some along the way but it's possible you were just sort of playing, were decent, and weren't much of a fighter.

Actually, the fact that he went to Germany could be proof that he is NOT much of a fighter. Hockey players who are less physical or can't fight are more likely to be the types to head to Germany because they would have a better chance of succeeding there.

If Mueller was a defenseman in a major Canadian junior league and then played in the ECHL or CHL in the U.S. then I would say chances are pretty good he's had some fighting.
If he played for an American college and then spent several years in Germany I would say there's actually a chance he's never been in a hockey fight.

By the way:
Here are Greg Mueller's hockey stats for those who are curious (I'm assuming this is the same guy we're talking about. Only Greg Mueller I found).
He had a few penalty minutes in there but nothing extreme for a defenseman and certainly nothing to indicate the guy was a regular fighter.
28 PIM's in 34 games in one season. That's really pretty tame.

His most was 55 PIM's in 36 games which still isn't exactly like he's a violent delinquent.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php3?pid=36178

Ha, I looked at the guy I knew from that same league who I didn't consider much of a fighter at all and he had way more PIM's.

Bob, agree not much fighting at the college level (didnt know gregg came outta college) but in the juniors, mites, pick-ups etc...

I think it safe to say that the vast majority of pro players have been in at least 10 fights in their lives, way more than average person.

He let his alligator mouth, overload his hummingbird azz.