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Greg Merson calls out Bobby Bellande & Aria Greg Merson calls out Bobby Bellande & Aria

11-03-2016 , 02:11 AM
Sure if there were an endless supply of whales wanting to play high stakes live games, than yes, what you said would be feasible
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11-03-2016 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by y0l0Theory
That post should be stickied and framed

This is how "private" games work across the country

Bottom line- if you are good- and don't bring a whale to the game- nothing else matters!

Even if you do bring a whale, if you crush the game, they most likely will just steal your whale and you wont be invited to play next time.
which is why first impressions mean everything. in a new game if you're trying to become a fixture or at least a rotating player in the pool you need to go out of your way to have a high vpip, be conversational, and be a good sport regardless of results.
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11-03-2016 , 09:02 AM
Don't worry about getting into games with players you think have lower skills.

Get to the table with the most talented players you can find and play your game.

It's the only way you'll ever get better.
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11-03-2016 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 42-2KM
Don't worry about getting into games with players you think have lower skills.

Get to the table with the most talented players you can find and play your game.

It's the only way you'll ever get better.
Not really
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11-03-2016 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DesertCat
Search: HighstakesDB:Bobby Bellande
Results: None found.
https://www.highstakesdb.com/profile...Jaqueline.aspx
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11-03-2016 , 12:03 PM
I agree with merson these guys are so scummy. Idk how JRB continues to play in such big games with no money its crazy
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11-03-2016 , 12:55 PM
Doesn't Aria have a board? If one really wanted to make noise over it.
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11-03-2016 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RakeYohn
I agree with merson these guys are so scummy. Idk how JRB continues to play in such big games with no money its crazy
Maybe because he actually has money and the whole "broke JRB" thing was just his gimmick? Or because he sucks Baldwin off for buy ins?

Either way who cares? The people playing in the game like playing with him and that is all that matters.

I don't even play high stakes poker but it seems pretty obvious that if guys are willing to lose millions of dollars they don't want to be playing with the Merson types. What does a sober internet grinder bring to the game ?

Spoiler:
NOTHING!!!
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11-03-2016 , 02:07 PM
Never knew that Jaqueline was his nic/screen name. Isn't that a girls name? He has great skills to produce numbers like those! What a player!!! Thanks ike
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11-03-2016 , 02:26 PM
I personally like how greggy is calling out all of these people, certain aspects of poker def need a change.
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11-03-2016 , 03:56 PM
If Greg "gets his way" these games will die. Cease to exist. Just like how Guy Laliberté quit playing online because he was bumhunted and it was no longer enjoyable.

Greg should adapt instead of being the boy who tries to take the ball on the playground if he cant play.
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11-03-2016 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SeyfLife
Just like how Guy Laliberté quit playing online because he was bumhunted and it was no longer enjoyable.
he wasn't bumhunted (in today's meaning of the word), most online players couldn't afford to play this high, so there were often open seats at his tables. He quit because he got tired of constantly losing - which is the cause of general long term unsustainability of poker, people eventually get sick of losing, unless they are gambling addicts.
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11-03-2016 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tutejszy
he wasn't bumhunted (in today's meaning of the word), most online players couldn't afford to play this high, so there were often open seats at his tables. He quit because he got tired of constantly losing - which is the cause of general long term unsustainability of poker, people eventually get sick of losing, unless they are gambling addicts.
Guys on here sure write a lot of words to express the old axiom, "you got to give action to get action". High earners who like to gamble and love poker will continue to lose for decades if:

A. They think the game is fair.

B. They enjoy spending time with the guys in the game.

C. And shockingly, they also have to win sometimes, and get a rush from the uncertainty.

Keep your word and maintain your integrity, be chill and cool with everyone, and open your game, increasing and embracing variance, while maintaining an edge.

Do those things and you will be welcome almost everywhere, and never run out of fun and profitable people to play against.
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11-03-2016 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SqredII
Guys on here sure write a lot of words to express the old axiom, "you got to give action to get action". High earners who like to gamble and love poker will continue to lose for decades if:

A. They think the game is fair.

B. They enjoy spending time with the guys in the game.

C. And shockingly, they also have to win sometimes, and get a rush from the uncertainty.

Keep your word and maintain your integrity, be chill and cool with everyone, and open your game, increasing and embracing variance, while maintaining an edge.

Do those things and you will be welcome almost everywhere, and never run out of fun and profitable people to play against.
Totally agree especially if you make the statement "Nearly everywhere but the Aria"
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11-03-2016 , 10:13 PM
Yeah nice post sq
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11-03-2016 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by coltranedog
Totally agree especially if you make the statement "Nearly everywhere but the Aria"
Yeah, I guess, starting in about the sixth grade their will be cliques you just can't break in to, no matter how cool you are. I know there have been plenty I can't crack, it sucks. Still think my advice is about the best anyone can hope to do. One thing for sure, with the really cool kids, you are never going to cry your way in.
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11-03-2016 , 11:43 PM
I don't see a problem, I've seen "Reserved" signs on BJ and craps tables all the time. Anyone can play poker at Aria, just not that reserved table. As far as I know, which is nothing, gaming areas used to have to be public, but casinos have had this changed so they can cater to their biggest of whales.

See this article in the review sun.
http://lasvegassun.com/news/2008/dec...ng-room-ready/
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11-04-2016 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SqredII
Yeah, I guess, starting in about the sixth grade their will be cliques you just can't break in to, no matter how cool you are. I know there have been plenty I can't crack, it sucks.
Agree, kinda frustrating to know that somebody you play with in game A is not very good but is still making more in game B than you could ever make in game A. Now you wonder how much you could make in game B if they'd ever let you in.
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11-04-2016 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Agree, kinda frustrating to know that somebody you play with in game A is not very good but is still making more in game B than you could ever make in game A. Now you wonder how much you could make in game B if they'd ever let you in.
The problem Merson never will understand is that Game B wouldn't exist if he was forced to be allowed to play. It's a really bad look on him and his ridiculous sense of entitlement that he continues to make this an issue.
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11-04-2016 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Punker
The problem Merson never will understand is that Game B wouldn't exist if he was forced to be allowed to play. It's a really bad look on him and his ridiculous sense of entitlement that he continues to make this an issue.
And what exactly would be the problem with not having a game where prostitute poker players take all kinds of shaft in order to suck these whales dry from their money when actual poker players won't ever be able to get in anyways? It's not like I would enjoy the sight of JRB taking that jizz money in the room next to me.
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11-04-2016 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 42-2KM
Don't worry about getting into games with players you think have lower skills.

Get to the table with the most talented players you can find and play your game.

It's the only way you'll ever get better.
lol
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11-04-2016 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Punker
The problem Merson never will understand is that Game B wouldn't exist if he was forced to be allowed to play. It's a really bad look on him and his ridiculous sense of entitlement that he continues to make this an issue.
Exactly. Live poker isn't and will never be purely a test of who is he best fundamental poker player especially as you move up.Once you have a decent level of poker skill other factors are far more important when it comes to making money at poker-being fun and friendly so fish want to play with you is extremely important.

Younger online grinders tend to think that no matter what they're entitled to profitable poker games whenever they feel like playing without realizing where money in poker actually comes from.

If Merson is mad that someone "worse" than him in poker can make more money than him playing in better games he should be mad at himself for not understanding how poker and the real world work.It's not unfair at all. What's unfair is thinking you're entitled to some rich guy's money without providing them a product or service (in this case being fun to play with)
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11-04-2016 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Punker
The problem Merson never will understand is that Game B wouldn't exist if he was forced to be allowed to play. It's a really bad look on him and his ridiculous sense of entitlement that he continues to make this an issue.
Well said.

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Originally Posted by Kelvis
And what exactly would be the problem with not having a game
No problem at all. But why would you even care if there's such a game? Let those guys have their game if they want to and let them play with who they want to. It's not like Greg is getting into that game because he complains and it's not like they are going to open the game to the public if they are not allowed to run it as a semi private game anymore. If the game can't continue in its current form, one of two things will happen. Either the game ceases to exist or they move it to a place where they are allowed to have a private game. What good comes from that?
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11-04-2016 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Well said.


No problem at all. But why would you even care if there's such a game? Let those guys have their game if they want to and let them play with who they want to. It's not like Greg is getting into that game because he complains and it's not like they are going to open the game to the public if they are not allowed to run it as a semi private game anymore. If the game can't continue in its current form, one of two things will happen. Either the game ceases to exist or they move it to a place where they are allowed to have a private game. What good comes from that?
Let them play their home game at.... home. If they want to do it in a casino and purposefully manipulate a waiting list in a way that pisses people off I would also burn that game down to the ground if they want it that way.

It's the "semi-public" that does it. Either you have it private or you don't because if you make it appear public but then simply block people then it is hardly public now is it. They should just take the game to some other place and rub each other if they so please.
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11-04-2016 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
No problem at all. But why would you even care if there's such a game? Let those guys have their game if they want to and let them play with who they want to. It's not like Greg is getting into that game because he complains and it's not like they are going to open the game to the public if they are not allowed to run it as a semi private game anymore. If the game can't continue in its current form, one of two things will happen. Either the game ceases to exist or they move it to a place where they are allowed to have a private game. What good comes from that?
It ceasing to exist could potentially be good for Greg ... or could potentially be bad for Greg. It depends on variables and predictions of how the people involved in the game will behave when it no longer exists, of which I have no knowledge.

If the guys stick around and now play in real public games that Greg can play in, then that is obviously good.

If they start having private games so the guys stop coming around and this causes the weaker "poker pros" who were hoarding the game to stop coming around, then this is either good or bad for Greg depending on how much the weaker "poker pros" were playing in the actual public games before, how much less they play in the actual public games now and what impact that has on Greg's profitability in those games.

If the guys stop coming around and the weaker "poker pros" who were hoarding the game have to start playing the real public games, then this is either good or bad for Greg depending on how much the weaker "poker pros" were playing in the actual public games before, how much more they play in the actual public games now and what impact that has on Greg's profitability in those games.

Additionally, there is the possibility of the poker room/casino taking some action if it looks like they are about to lose this game or if they do lose such game.
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