Dwan was always very, very bad at PLO, there's a bunch of pre-bf hhs in high stakes threads on 2p2, anyone can take a look, he was down millions in PLO on ftp and rightfully so

that being said, the way he was playing on HCL actually does make a certain amount of sense, buying in short and giving infinite gamble to the whales, but then turning more solid in deeper spots. One thing I wonder is if he was staked there, as all the limp/calling with garbage and 73% vpip might be hard to explain to a potential backer who would not be very in tune with dynamics of live games such as this one

I don't think Tom was down millions at online PLO. I think he was a comfortable winner in those games, but I can't remember exactly, and you can't search for results on High Stakes DB anymore.

Tom's big losses really came to Isildur and Jungleman playing heads up hold em.

Ideally I think Tom likes to play deep. It's the game that he's the best at because he's fearless, clever and plays a lot of garbage pre flop.

David Benefield used to buy in short a lot back in the day, Zigmund and Tom would play and 3 bet every hand and David would just get it in pre with a decent holding, in the hope that they would be playing garbage and that they would made maybe fold each others equity out of the hand on the flop, turn or river.

I did see Tom buying in short the odd time online, maybe if he didn't have a lot of money in his account, but it was the exception rather than the rule.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYBI...=WilliamAugust

On HCL I think everyone bought in short at the beginning of that PLO game, it was just the game dynamics. He sat with a million in no limit vs Doug et al a month ago.

I don't think Tom has some king of a next level genius strategy, where he feels he has to give action to get action.

He just has a very gambly stlyle of play, and he picks up a lot of edge vs fish when playing deep.

^you can't check it anymore, but I'm fairly certain Tom was, indeed, down millions in PLO playing on FTP. And the hand histories you can find from that era definitely support this

Tom's results plus 2.4 million dollars profit accross a million hands on Full Tilt.

So he was definitely a winner in the games at the time. He mostly played PLO.

He made a big mistake playing Isildur and Jungleman heads up who were the best heads up nl players at the time.

Live he made huge sums on the shows High Stakes Poker and Poker After Dark.

Given that he was able to beat the biggest games on full tilt over a million hand sample, the donkeys in those live games that he is playing against is like shooting fish in a barrel.

yeah, except the above includes NLHE games with Guy Laliberte, where everyone won a lot of money. I distinctly remember people being shocked at how much he was losing in PLO as per PTR, don't recall the exact number, but it was definitely >2mm. Again, not a shock if you look at some of his hands and the fact that the others were actually pretty solid even back then