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04-14-2018 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
if they aren't then being sub 10% is extremely unhealthy and this is a dumb bet, I'm pretty confident they are though, there's just not an ounce of fat on them

also for me if I remember correctly I was at 8% and the visceral fat reading was at the lowest possible, I wasn't in good shape though, at all, was sick and had been eating about 500 calories a day for quite a while


and for the people who think they are going to look good if they manage to do it they couldn't be more wrong, sub 10% fat without steroids doesn't look good at all, just look up natural bodybuilders who are cutting for comps, they lose a huge portion of their muscle mass in the process
Was this on a dexa scan? If not it's literally irrelevant
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04-14-2018 , 08:22 AM
well I think it is, the thingy that sends eletric waves in your body and calculates muscle mass and everything?

otherwise I guess yeah it is irrelevent, I looked up what a dexa scan look like on google and I've never seen that in my life so prob wasn't that, do they only have that in hospitals?
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04-14-2018 , 08:29 AM
I wish someone cared enough to pay me to get fit
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04-14-2018 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
don't they just have to starve themselves? or fast a lot throughout the year to lose weight and fat just goes away

feels like they are huge favorites to win this one
Well they have to be on a very strict diet. One of the problem with the bet is that the BF % u can go down to is very dependant on your genes.

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Originally Posted by pushing
Super happy for Jamie to have accomplished such a big goal but his body type isn't one to hold a BF% of sub 10.
There is absolutely no way to know this. Just because he's been overweight historically doesn't necessarily mean he's genetically predisposed of a high BF %.

Still, this should be a very big challenge without the use of "mexican supplements". Good luck to them

For reference:
Here's a youtube vid of a guy with 10,8% BF on dexascan, and here's another one with 9.7%. As you can tell, results with dexascans are all over the place.

Last edited by Tomtah; 04-14-2018 at 09:21 AM.
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04-14-2018 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TicKinTiMeBomB
They dont need to build muscle and look like a bodybuilder. They can look like a twig and win. Its 20x easier to lose 15 pounds of fat than gain 15 pounds of muscle. They just have to do some heavy compounds to try and maintain their lean mass or possible add some muscle but it's mainly cardio and diet up the azz for a year str8. As you get lower and lower bodyfat your scans start to snowball. Going from 25 pounds of fat to 20 isn't as big of proportional drop as losing 5lbs of fat off like 15lbs of fat. Losing those 5lbs take equal amount of effort but one will move your b.f % 25% to 20% then like 20% to 10%.(made up numbers but you get the point)
id u do not rise your basic metabolism by adding some (nobody talks bodybuilder here) muscles and keeping them while the loss, <10% on dexa means pure starving with all bad issues of undernutrition: hair loss, blood issues - iron deficit, bone issues, horrible loose skin, constant tiredness, bad concentration and depressive symtoms
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04-14-2018 , 10:36 AM
In before Jaime turns up at a tournament sporting a new backpack fashioned from his excess skin.
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04-14-2018 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TicKinTiMeBomB
Water weight would register as lean mass but lean mass wouldnt affect your bodyfat % that greatly as the same amount of fat lose if your lean already. Say you have 80lbs of muscle and 25lb of fat.if you add 6lb water now you have 86lb muscle and 25lb of fat that's not as good as 25lb of fat and losing 6 to now have 19lbs fat and 80lb of muscle. Your b.f dexa would be better in the 2nd .
OK, I'll rephrase my question. If I am 135 lbs now with 14 lbs of fat = 10.4% body fat, will adding 8 pounds of water make me have 14/143 = 9.8% body fat on the dexa scan?
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04-14-2018 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by iL1keTurtles
This. I think there's some simple stuff you can do like drink a lot of water before the scan and it throws it off significantly.
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Originally Posted by madlex
OK, I'll rephrase my question. If I am 135 lbs now with 14 lbs of fat = 10.4% body fat, will adding 8 pounds of water make me have 14/143 = 9.8% body fat on the dexa scan?
Yes, this is exactly how it works, and I forgot to write about this in my original reply as an absolutely angle-able factor.

DEXA scans measure only 2 things:
1) skeletal weight,
2) fat
>> Everything else: muscle tissue, organs, stomach contents, etc just get lumped together essentially as being NOT one of the above 2 things, and often referred to as LBM (lean body mass), but that's a bit misleading since all the DEXA machine knows is that it's not bone or fat. (There's no way to get an accurate accounting of actual muscle tissue other than a full body biopsy (said tongue in cheek by my dexa tech friend), and yeah: good luck with that as a living human being.) For integrity of bet, parties should have insisted on doing it upon first waking up before any food/drink or the like.
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04-14-2018 , 12:39 PM
i think DEXA-s official protocol is to do it in the morning with no food/water, so you cant manipulate that way.
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04-14-2018 , 02:10 PM
perkins such an end boss
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04-14-2018 , 02:44 PM
Getting below 10% body fat might not be possible for Jaime Staples. Genetics seems to play a large role in one's ability to go from 15%-5% body fat.
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04-14-2018 , 04:38 PM
Anyone want to bet against me being sub 10% right now? Never tested.
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04-14-2018 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
Anyone want to bet against me being sub 10% right now? Never tested.
Pics of your tits first please
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04-14-2018 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PuckFokerGo
Getting below 10% body fat might not be possible for Jaime Staples. Genetics seems to play a large role in one's ability to go from 15%-5% body fat.
It might be close to impossible but not due to genetics, but due to him being formerly obese. He may have a bunch of fat tissue that basically can't be gotten rid of, like in folds of loose skin. Yes, skin surgery is allowed but that still won't solve everything. I'm just thinking that the body after being obese once may have fat deposits that just don't really mobilize no matter how lean the rest of you gets, pretty much. At least it may not be fully fixable in the time frame allowed.

Matt just needs to get shredded though, obviously. Like any other normal guy who lifts weights and then decides to diet to really low bf%. He's basically a lock (though he will still look really skinny sub 10%, no joke, he doesn't have thaaat much muscle mass. Maybe Brad Pitt in fight club-ish but slightly more emaciated )
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04-15-2018 , 08:13 AM
Just had an epiphany. Maybe Jaimes loose skin registers as lbm and with almost no added bodyfat, so removing it would essentially increase his bf%.
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04-15-2018 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
Anyone want to bet against me being sub 10% right now? Never tested.

ive been waiting on you rich..


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to everyone here who thinks that eating salads is a bad way to win this bet, eat some more salad. you eat a salad and you can be hungry again in 20 mins. meat fills you up for a much longer time. i dont think a lot of you realize that.

why do competitive eaters eat salad to stretch there stomachs instead of hamburgers?? because you can eat a lot of it and still feel hungry.



im sure he doesnt have to stay awake for 36 hours, but sleeping wont help. if you want to stay awake for long periods of time the best way to do it is by constantly eating. your metabolism slows down while sleeping.



ha, maybe. i like being thin. i like feeling good after i eat a meal. and i've knocked the teeth out of a much bigger guy so i can throw a solid punch. i am strong enough to do a pushup from a handstand position. i got an apple in my bicep thats rock hard and washboard abs. and not all women are attracted to overly muscled dudes that are soft around the middle.


I'm officially gay sorry ladies. Pm me rich

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04-15-2018 , 01:30 PM
I really hope Perkins essentially paying them to get into shape doesn't backfire. If they get close to the end and aren't going to make it, it would be really tempting to start using large amounts of fat burners/stimulants. Sure, no GH or steroids, but stimulants can really screw you up.
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04-15-2018 , 03:58 PM
If Staples bros get DEXA scans right now and post them we'll be in better position to handicap this. Based on visuals, Matt is (or should be) a lock. Loose skin folds a legit wild-card for Jamie tho.
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04-15-2018 , 04:17 PM
this perkins guy is nice!
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04-15-2018 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Auld guy
Pics of your tits first please


It's not cultural appropriation because I'm 1/32 Chippawa Indian. Or something like that.

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ive been waiting on you rich..


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I'm officially gay sorry ladies. Pm me rich
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04-15-2018 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker


It's not cultural appropriation because I'm 1/32 Chippawa Indian. Or something like that.

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If you're actually that shirtless guy and you look like that, you're legit like 20% bodyfat not even joking.
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04-15-2018 , 09:52 PM
maybe a tiny bit less but yeah definitely well above 10% lol
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04-15-2018 , 10:14 PM
Yeah agreed that pic is 12 years old, I'm about 20-30lbs lighter and without an appendix now.
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04-15-2018 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Pendaflex89
ive been waiting on you rich..

Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
ha, maybe. i like being thin. i like feeling good after i eat a meal. and i've knocked the teeth out of a much bigger guy so i can throw a solid punch. i am strong enough to do a pushup from a handstand position. i got an apple in my bicep thats rock hard and washboard abs. and not all women are attracted to overly muscled dudes that are soft around the middle.


I'm officially gay sorry ladies. Pm me rich

Haha yeah i remember now, Rich = #tinyman. aren't you like 5'7 and 110 lbs or something?

but yeah, prob still way over 10%
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04-16-2018 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomtah
Well they have to be on a very strict diet. One of the problem with the bet is that the BF % u can go down to is very dependant on your genes.



There is absolutely no way to know this. Just because he's been overweight historically doesn't necessarily mean he's genetically predisposed of a high BF %.

Still, this should be a very big challenge without the use of "mexican supplements". Good luck to them

For reference:
Here's a youtube vid of a guy with 10,8% BF on dexascan, and here's another one with 9.7%. As you can tell, results with dexascans are all over the place.
Sure there is. Assume genetics is a key. His brother was 135 as a walking around weight and they are about the same height. Staples genetics would be they are comfortably attuned to be a natural 135-150. Jamie after losing 100 lbs and cutting weight leaves him at 195 or so. He isn't skinny at that weight. He could still lose another 40 lbs comfortably and no one would be calling 911 trying to get him committed. His body has been 300 lbs for a while now because his hunger drove him to maintain that weight. I'm sure there are tricks and ways to get it done but he is a natural endomorph and despite all the fighting and dieting he always will be. It isn't as much a choice as people would believe. He doesn't really have any muscle to leverage against the fat loss that will need to happen.
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