Is Ginge Poker faking his results? (CALLED OUT FOR BEING BAD AT POKER BY BBZ) BIG DRAMA - Page 3 - Poker News

Don't get why people are posting hands, If anyone streamed for tons of hours there will be punts along the way.
Should be pretty simple to post his results for 500z though if he actually claimed to beat it for 5-7bbs.

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03-30-2021 , 12:16 AM

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The AJ hand is at worst slightly suboptimal from a GTO point of view and it might even be the ideal sizing exploitatively. Something like the QJ hand here is awful any way you look at it though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60UdCps9N-g&t=685s

This one is way more problematic than the AJ hand

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03-30-2021 , 12:34 AM

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+rep_lol

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itt we confirm that, in fact, poker is completely and totally dead in 2021

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03-30-2021 , 12:37 AM

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yasuo

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100/200 HUNL gingepoker vs bbz lets go

btw are bbz's mtt results open?

Last edited by yasuo; 03-30-2021 at 12:43 AM.

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03-30-2021 , 12:53 AM

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This one is way more problematic than the AJ hand

/threadclose

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03-30-2021 , 01:00 AM

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LomaPac

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TIL if you've ever punted in your life you should be publicly shamed for trying to coach.

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03-30-2021 , 02:40 AM

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Outoftime44444

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TIL if you've ever punted in your life you should be publicly shamed for trying to coach.

hahaha

this is short way of saying what the facts are getting at more and more

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03-30-2021 , 02:43 AM

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samooth

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol

itt we confirm that, in fact, poker is completely and totally dead in 2021

whatever makes you feel better

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03-30-2021 , 03:03 AM

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Koshko

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7bb graph

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03-30-2021 , 03:04 AM

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Lol6max

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^^ HOLY **** THATS AMAZING

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03-30-2021 , 03:04 AM

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03-30-2021 , 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Koshko

7bb graph

12k hands is irrelevant

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03-30-2021 , 03:18 AM

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Anybody who watches ginge stream can say he can't beat 500z or even 200z for example.

He said on stream he uses one third flop cbet in most cases as it helps to play future streets simple due to simple game tree.

He aslo says he don't like using pio and play more exploitative poker which clearly says he can't beat 500z.

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03-30-2021 , 03:18 AM

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7bb graph

The hat adds 15bb.

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03-30-2021 , 03:23 AM

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OvertlySexual

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FWIW, this graph is from his February vlog in which he explains how much he made in February. In his January vlog, he shows that he made $12k.

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03-30-2021 , 03:34 AM

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enzet

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why is it drama? bbz doesn't want to work with the dude based on his sample videos, so what? it's not like he's dissing Sauce or someone relevant.

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03-30-2021 , 04:32 AM

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One thing I thought was a bit strange is how he's always been grinding 500z on stream. Then he gets a GG contract and is sitting in NL20k games.

Although saying that, he's not the only GG streamer who suddenly jumped into bigger games after getting a GG contract.

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03-30-2021 , 04:50 AM

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lucky11

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tbf, if you could why wld u not sit in those 20knl games on gg with some of players there

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03-30-2021 , 04:50 AM

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If BBZ says he's bad at poker then he's bad at poker.

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03-30-2021 , 05:09 AM

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Even if it was a big blunder, it's not fair to judge a player after a single hand. If we take this road, we can say limitless is the worst poker player in the history of the game, if we only look at the A9o hand he played against Fedor. That's just stupid..

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03-30-2021 , 05:15 AM

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TroothSayer

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Seems we’ve all learned the hard lesson that is: gingers cannot be trusted under any circumstances.

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03-30-2021 , 05:15 AM

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Koshko

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very fair....

What about 12000 hands?

I think post graph ITT and everyone will stop winging. Something that BBZ would of (should of ) already done to even give ginge the opportunity to create content.

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03-30-2021 , 05:25 AM

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GreatBigRedOne

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Originally Posted by Koshko

Still not enough.

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03-30-2021 , 05:26 AM

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weeeez

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I watched jordan's stream a bunch and enjoyed it, he seems competent at poker.
That said this is a weird video and if this is how they chose their coaches, it's not a good look on their judgment skills.
It's like they saw his name and did zero background check before accepting the package.
Proof is they wouldn't even pay him a cent if there was scammage here.
Doesn't diminish jordan's skill at poker, just shows he has very weak selection process regarding to his business, and maybe till now he ran good at picking partners.
Still will watch his stream, there is knowledge there.

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03-30-2021 , 05:27 AM

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georgelboss

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12K hands, really?

A player who wins at 5bb/100(a crusher), can easily lose 10-15 buyins (even 30 if we look at the worst scenario). This sample size is not representative at all

I'm not taking Ginge's side, all I want to say is that considering the "evidence" shown in this thread so far. No one can say for sure if he is a crusher or a break-even z500 player.

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