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01-24-2024 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesHolden
Can someone investigate 888 please? I get the same vibes from some people there.
I looked at all the stakes on 888 and found only one clear outlier.

NL10/NL20:

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01-24-2024 , 05:13 AM
Thanks for investigating. I only play SNAP and just took player notes until now.
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01-24-2024 , 05:44 AM
Why would anyone chip dump on microstakes? Can someone explain the logic behind that?

When your illegal activities provides so much profit to the point where you need to launder money, 10NL is the worse place for that.

If i needed to launder money, i would jump straight to 200NL to make things fast.
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01-24-2024 , 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 420legalize420
If i needed to launder money, i would jump straight to 200NL to make things fast.
Pool is way smaller and the regs notices new players way faster. Don't think NL10 players pay that much attention to anything outside of a few like op.
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01-24-2024 , 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 420legalize420
Why would anyone chip dump on microstakes? Can someone explain the logic behind that?

When your illegal activities provides so much profit to the point where you need to launder money, 10NL is the worse place for that.

If i needed to launder money, i would jump straight to 200NL to make things fast.
Also, why would you need 1500 hands and VPIP 70%+ to dump?
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01-24-2024 , 07:28 AM


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01-24-2024 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackJackDegen


lol

This is 100% not cheating.
But I can't say 100% it's not, because I don't have all of the info. What a tool.
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01-24-2024 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroDonkYT
lol

This is 100% not cheating.
But I can't say 100% it's not, because I don't have all of the info. What a tool.
terrible look and obvious shilling.

is this his first response to the cheating on GG?
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01-24-2024 , 12:03 PM
Playing 70% of hands and making ridiculous call downs is the way to maximize your profit per hand as a superuser. However, you could play normally, and just use the information in somewhat close situations, and it would be much harder to detect.

Hey, they aren't handing out sponsored pro money like FTP did. If you want it, you need to be a good shill.

Weren't all these NL10 issues after the "problem was patched".
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01-24-2024 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
terrible look and obvious shilling.

is this his first response to the cheating on GG?
He's the integrity ambassador for GGpoker
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01-24-2024 , 12:32 PM
well i think that is is his first response regarding gg poker re cheating/superusing

I will say that these instances have not given us any evidence , unlike the moneytaker incident.
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01-24-2024 , 02:00 PM
Such a poor response.

'There are lots of cases of promo abusers chip dumping at micros' - oh right, that's ok then.

'confidently say that a similar event never occured' - yes because it's very likely that one person on earth figured out and abused this vulnerability all on their own and never told a single soul.

'the problem was patched' - is just completely not good enough when we're talking about such an egregious vulnerability.

'Integrity Ambassador' is complete jokes. Such a dummy.
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01-24-2024 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by darchas
Such a poor response.

'There are lots of cases of promo abusers chip dumping at micros' - oh right, that's ok then.

'confidently say that a similar event never occured' - yes because it's very likely that one person on earth figured out and abused this vulnerability all on their own and never told a single soul.

'the problem was patched' - is just completely not good enough when we're talking about such an egregious vulnerability.

'Integrity Ambassador' is complete jokes. Such a dummy.

I disagree, chip dumping doesn't negatively affect you as a third player. Unlike with a superuser which you can lose 100bb/100 to so it's important for Jason to give reassurance about.

Like me and others pointed out at the start these players were unlikely to be superusers because of the low volume and stakes, the opposite of how every caught superuser in the past has acted.

I feel totally safe playing on GG after the bug was fixed and them now being very cautious to this kind of thing, and high stakes regs like Linus do too. I guess forum users like to complain about everything
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01-24-2024 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by charlesChickens
them now being very cautious to this kind of thing
What have you seen or read from GG that makes you think this?
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01-24-2024 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by darchas
What have you seen or read from GG that makes you think this?
They said they would double the number of people working for their security team. And the superuser bug was a specific kind of error that is easy to not do again: simply don't send any information about equity/villains cards/future runout cards to the client early
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01-24-2024 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 10najkrajsi
I check smarthand and there are many new accounts who giga crushing and play only 4k hands per month at nl500 with huge winrate.





Can someone tweet this to koon and asked this clown if these accs are also chip dump?

Also people please stop asking questions like "lol, why would u superuse on nl10, why not nl200" or "why chip dump on nl10, not nl200", as many people have already replied, why it makes sense to do it at these stakes.

This is beyond ridiculous, this list of accs itself it absolutely mind blowing.

No one can tell me that all of this is specific chip dumping, and even if that would be the case, how the f8ck does gg not have an automatic algorithm/anomaly detection/clustering that easily and quickly blocks these accounts for security review.

It's just so beyond ridiculous. Imo we are still just seeing the tip of the iceberg, who knows what's going on at mtts, where much more money can be made and much more subtle.

GG is confirmed rigged at this point. They are regulated in many markets now, we are reaching a lvl where a mass lawsuit should be organized. Maybe this forces them to take this a bit seriously.
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01-24-2024 , 04:32 PM
It probably is as they say but expecting us to take them at their word is laughable
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01-24-2024 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Zamadhi

For reference:




HU and 6max winrates are very different. In HU it is variance in 6max it is something else when you have 80bb/100.
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01-24-2024 , 06:26 PM
the graphs look more like what i would expect superusing to look than chip dumping but i am not a matter expert on nl10 promotion abuse
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01-24-2024 , 06:28 PM
It's not worth it playing on GGpoker if your not playing atleast 500 Nlhe imo.
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01-24-2024 , 06:43 PM
Are these NL10 superusers from before or after the "bug" was supposed to have been fixed?
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01-24-2024 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by charlesChickens
They said they would double the number of people working for their security team. And the superuser bug was a specific kind of error that is easy to not do again: simply don't send any information about equity/villains cards/future runout cards to the client early
This is like some sort of Stockholm syndrome. Double the number is meaningless, might be double two for all we know. And GG are not exactly known for transparency.

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Originally Posted by charlesChickens
simply don't send any information about equity/villains cards/future runout cards to the client early
Or simply don't do that in the first place.
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01-24-2024 , 07:30 PM
i have a question, maybe i am too dumb to understand, if people are chip dumping and you are playing against them, doesnt mean they will collude against in order for their chip dumping to be succesful and hit the targeted account?
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01-24-2024 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by charlesChickens
I disagree, chip dumping doesn't negatively affect you as a third player. Unlike with a superuser which you can lose 100bb/100 to so it's important for Jason to give reassurance about.



Like me and others pointed out at the start these players were unlikely to be superusers because of the low volume and stakes, the opposite of how every caught superuser in the past has acted.



I feel totally safe playing on GG after the bug was fixed and them now being very cautious to this kind of thing, and high stakes regs like Linus do too. I guess forum users like to complain about everything
Lol
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01-24-2024 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr
i have a question, maybe i am too dumb to understand, if people are chip dumping and you are playing against them, doesnt mean they will collude against in order for their chip dumping to be succesful and hit the targeted account?
A "perfect chip dump" can only happen if u play Hu sb vs bb in 6max / bu vs sb vs bb if 3 accs are involved and so on. That's why some posts abt how chip dumping doesn't influence yourself are dumb af.... I highly doubt the chip dumping only took place in these sb vs bb spots but rather more wide, e.g. 3 accs at one table where one will always 4b/5bet.

So even if some of the mentioned accs are "only" chip dumps, fair players are still affected, directly or indirectly.
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