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01-23-2024 , 04:03 AM
Hello,

I am a regular microstakes cash player, and I believe I may have found a superuser:

gemini2 @NL10
lamborghini2 @NL10

I suspect that these two accounts belong to the same person. Both accounts quickly accumulate 500-600 big blinds in a short time with a VPIP of >75%, and then immediately leave the table. They just play at one table. They consistently attempt to play the full board. Upon observing their played hands, it became evident that there is something unusual. I am uncertain about how to fully utilize online resources, but with further research, you'll likely see the abnormalities.

gemini2 leaves, and lamborghini2 appears soon after. These nicknames don't play very often, but when they do, they become chip leaders rapidly and then leave. There might be numerous accounts we are unaware of.

I strongly urge GG officials to monitor their hands closely to detect any abnormalities. The playing style of both accounts is exactly the same.

Typically, I label players based on their chip counts and the number of tables. This approach helps me identify those with abnormal stats who quickly become chip leaders. These two players have been catching my attention for a while. I have a few more players I suspect, but won't mention their usernames for now because I am not entirely sure about them.

I am sharing the screenshots of the data I obtained from smarthand.pro. Although statistics for some of the hands played on this site are provided, it would be beneficial if you could further investigate using additional tools, if available.

That's enough information from me; the rest is up to you guys who want to investigate.

Have a nice day and good luck.



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01-23-2024 , 06:09 AM
Ain't looking too hot for GG
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01-23-2024 , 06:19 AM
Oh ffs
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01-23-2024 , 06:42 AM
Damn you could argue one might be an anomaly but not two. Nice find op
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01-23-2024 , 07:03 AM
could just be whales whaling around but how close their stats look is sussy

they won 160 bi in 3.5k hands? that's hilarious

GG should try using the insane rake that's 10 times higher than any other site to fix their software maybe

Last edited by aner0; 01-23-2024 at 07:13 AM.
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01-23-2024 , 07:29 AM
PotRipper 33 and 1/3: The (Definitely Not) Final GG Insult
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01-23-2024 , 07:40 AM
Their winrate is a bit sus but I don't expect they would only play 3k hands over 3 months and at microstakes if they had managed to find a way to superuse
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01-23-2024 , 07:43 AM
I think its more than a bit sus to win 80 BI with 1.8k hands.
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01-23-2024 , 07:45 AM
Probability of running at or above observed win rate (500.00 BB/100) over 3500 hands with a true win rate of -50.00 BB/100 (»?«) 0.0000%
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01-23-2024 , 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by charlesChickens
Their winrate is a bit sus but I don't expect they would only play 3k hands over 3 months and at microstakes if they had managed to find a way to superuse
I mean, that would be clearly be the case of someone testing an exploit and checking if they will get detected before going big

This is very suspicious, but isn't WWSW and W$SD a bit low for a superuser? It's abnormally high, but not THAT high. That being said, this might just be a smarter superuser who only cheats bigger spots, which would also support the theory of them only treading waters for now

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01-23-2024 , 08:02 AM
i 9tabled gg nl10 the last couple of days and remember seeing these nicks popping on tables and leaving with 700+ blinds each time with 70vpip
gotta check hand histories once i get home, will post some if i find something juicy
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01-23-2024 , 08:05 AM
Given they played 3.5k hands combined at a limit as low as 10nl I'd say its way more likely that this is chip dumping and not superusing

still against ToS though

also the second players hasnt been in online in 13 days in the screenshot. If you are a superuser why take 13 days off, you'll have to make the most of it till you get caught
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01-23-2024 , 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by karhukarhu
i 9tabled gg nl10 the last couple of days and remember seeing these nicks popping on tables and leaving with 700+ blinds each time with 70vpip
gotta check hand histories once i get home, will post some if i find something juicy
plz check because chip dumping is probably more likely but if you can confirm they are beating everyone and not just a couple people that would help
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01-23-2024 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MoViN.tArGeT
plz check because chip dumping is probably more likely but if you can confirm they are beating everyone and not just a couple people that would help

i don't think it's chip dumping as they seemed to be taking money from everyone, iirc i lost 2 big pots to gemini2 but just thought it's a drunken 70vpip fish on a heater
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01-23-2024 , 08:36 AM
why would you chip dump @ 10nl?

Bro, you owe me 2k. Let's play microstakes for 8 hours!
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01-23-2024 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MoViN.tArGeT
plz check because chip dumping is probably more likely but if you can confirm they are beating everyone and not just a couple people that would help
this can be easily check, since it is possible to buy HH with real nicknames on GG
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01-23-2024 , 08:41 AM
Winrate is, of course, super sus... but they've only been playing like 600 hands per month, which doesn't make much sense if they are superusing.
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01-23-2024 , 09:13 AM
not even suprised at this point
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01-23-2024 , 09:31 AM
Just one GG thread pls
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01-23-2024 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Zamadhi
Winrate is, of course, super sus... but they've only been playing like 600 hands per month, which doesn't make much sense if they are superusing.
I mean, did you see how much they won? Lol, this simply doesn't happen, add that on top of 2 people doing it? No, not a chance this is legit.
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01-23-2024 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyMaleModels
I mean, did you see how much they won? Lol, this simply doesn't happen, add that on top of 2 people doing it? No, not a chance this is legit.
But if they are superusing their way to winning so much, why not do it more? Why stop at 600 hands per month? Why stop at NL10?
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01-23-2024 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Zamadhi
But if they are superusing their way to winning so much, why not do it more? Why stop at 600 hands per month? Why stop at NL10?
Pure speculation but they could do it to be able showcase these results to people who have accounts with big samples on higher stakes and then get/rent these accounts to play much higher and in a non obvious way to capitalize on their exploit
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01-23-2024 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Zamadhi
But if they are superusing their way to winning so much, why not do it more? Why stop at 600 hands per month? Why stop at NL10?
Maybe there's other bots as well and this is the best strategy to keep them all operating.
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01-23-2024 , 10:35 AM
Kinda hilarious people are saying why they are not playing more and not thinking these people have 10 accounts each or thinking moneytaker was one isolated incident
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01-23-2024 , 10:38 AM
this looks so bad
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