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GGPoker shady dealings: Should we really trust them? GGPoker shady dealings: Should we really trust them?

08-19-2020 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BrotherLove9
Until the US government got involved, no one had serious problems withdrawing their money from FT and AP/UB despite their mismanagement of player funds.

In contrast, GGpoker doesn't even need the feds to syphon your account dry.

What is even more amusing is that Daniel Negreanu was constantly attacking Phil Hellmuth and bashing AP/UB for their shady dealings, yet 10 years later, he is working for a company worse than AP/UB. This man is a slippery snake with no moral standards.
oh cmon worse than a site that folks playing high stakes that could see your hole cards.
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08-19-2020 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
oh cmon worse than a site that folks playing high stakes that could see your hole cards.
I had forgotten the POTRIPPER scandal. Okay, I'll place them on the same level then. One company robs you openly while the other did it the Postle way.
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08-19-2020 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott7x
So why doesn’t GG define it as something like that. Or define it in detail at all? Even if you think they are operating in good faith, you have to admit that the current system could easily be abused by GG to ban winning regs for no reason other then they think it will help their bottom line.
I already agree they have the right to run their business as they want, I just don’t think it’s good for the game.
They make it pretty clear...
https://en.ggpoker.com/security-ecology-agreement/



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Originally Posted by Themadmonk
is bumhunting not exactly what ggpoker is doing ?
selecting the winning players they ban, and selecting the players who dont win or cash out much to remain on the site,so the money goes around in circles untill it all ends up with them via rake.
looks like bumhunting to me.
I would say the difference is that ggpoker is trying to sustain an "amateur ecology" on their site, rather than force the amateurs to become extinct on their site - should be be obvious why.
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08-20-2020 , 07:32 PM
i'm shocked that a site such as this exists with any modicum of success. i only keep <$5000 on any site at any given time, but i would NEVER put money on this site, not even a ten cent piece to try their software. this is literally communist poker run by capitalist greed. their business model is such that ALL of the money deposited would eventually be raked and "won" by the ultimate bumhunter, themselves. f that noise.
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08-20-2020 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by darthFader69
this is literally communist poker run by capitalist greed.
Are you an oxymoron?
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08-22-2020 , 09:56 PM
Ummm wtf lolz
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08-23-2020 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroDonkYT
I thought this was a joke at first [/url]
their policies are. if their bans had been based on legit reasons such an offer would make no sense. how is this site still holding ‚licences‘?
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08-23-2020 , 04:31 AM
I think this confirms that the people making the decisions at GG are around 9 years old.
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08-23-2020 , 04:38 AM
https://en.ggpoker.com/the-good-pro-...d-the-bad-pro/

This page is laughable. Basically, unless you're a streamer bringing them traffic, you can **** right off. The part about the "Regular Pro" is most hilarious:

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A regular pro mainly focuses on their gameplay and win rate. They continuously study their own game, improve, and crush the field.

From our standpoint, there is nothing wrong with this as long as they follow our terms and conditions.
Their predatory TOS ensures they can ban these types of players for whatever arbitrary violation they feel like. Winning too much in a certain field? Whoops, sorry bucko, looks like our internal systems and extremely advanced machine learning algorithms have concluded you're using illegal hand charts! We have no choice but to ban your account and keep your balance!
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08-23-2020 , 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Any2Suited
https://en.ggpoker.com/the-good-pro-...d-the-bad-pro/

This page is laughable. Basically, unless you're a streamer bringing them traffic, you can **** right off. The part about the "Regular Pro" is most hilarious:



Their predatory TOS ensures they can ban these types of players for whatever arbitrary violation they feel like. Winning too much in a certain field? Whoops, sorry bucko, looks like our internal systems and extremely advanced machine learning algorithms have concluded you're using illegal hand charts! We have no choice but to ban your account and keep your balance!
exactly what was happened in the past already. Now they are write this down as a statement. lol
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08-23-2020 , 05:20 AM
Well they are still missing 3.8k players to hit the guarantee on the Wsop 5k ME. So now they are taking anyone.
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08-23-2020 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Any2Suited
https://en.ggpoker.com/the-good-pro-...d-the-bad-pro/

This page is laughable. Basically, unless you're a streamer bringing them traffic, you can **** right off. The part about the "Regular Pro" is most hilarious:



Their predatory TOS ensures they can ban these types of players for whatever arbitrary violation they feel like. Winning too much in a certain field? Whoops, sorry bucko, looks like our internal systems and extremely advanced machine learning algorithms have concluded you're using illegal hand charts! We have no choice but to ban your account and keep your balance!
Look it's their house, they make the rules why u mad tho?

Last edited by Hot*ShoT; 08-23-2020 at 06:10 AM.
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08-23-2020 , 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by any four cards
their policies are. if their bans had been based on legit reasons such an offer would make no sense. how is this site still holding ‚licences‘?
That's what it's all about as this gives the players legal power to their illegal doings.

Currently they only hold a UK licence so they can pretty much do anything they want unless it's against a UK player where their actions can mean legal consequences. Interestingly enough I have not read anything about UK players getting scammed since they hold a licence there.

They currently applying licences all over EU
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08-23-2020 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Hot*ShoT
Look it's their house, they make the rules why u mad tho?
Does not work like that exactly in a free democracy.
There is something called the law
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08-23-2020 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SemiFreddo
Does not work like that exactly in a free democracy.
There is something called the law
Which one?
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08-23-2020 , 06:52 AM
having a licence it self doent mean anything.(they still dont have Malta licencee) Even if you could win a lawsuit after like 2-3 years after spent 10-15k good luck to recover your money from the network of offshore companies they have.
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08-23-2020 , 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Hot*ShoT
Which one?
Any law
Just because it's your house does not mean you can do anything you want, it still need to be lawful in the jurisdiction it takes place.
You can make "house rules" sure.. only as long as they are within the confinements of the law
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08-23-2020 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by naggeri2
having a licence it self doent mean anything.(they still dont have Malta licencee) Even if you could win a lawsuit after like 2-3 years after spent 10-15k good luck to recover your money from the network of offshore companies they have.
It does. It means the legislator can fine the company and revoke licences when it's practices are not lawful. Meaning their scamming , when found to be the case, will have legal consequences. Scammed players will have to be contributed by the legislator, this is partly where licence money is for. Then when fines not paid the licence will be revoked which then removes their legal acces to the market.
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08-23-2020 , 07:33 AM
GG site is such a joke on so many levels it seems a little absurd.

How is it still operating? It would appear US facing busineses (WSOP) are dealing with this company. It is completly unregulated, has uncapped rake, steals players money and a myriad of other issues.

The WSOP are a complete joke to use this site to host braclet events. Is WSOP owned by a US casino business? Isnt this enough to break some sort of law? Are they getting a piece of that sweet uncapped rake, % points on stolen funds?

Their media statements are an absolute joke and sound like they are written by some idiot who is out of their element. What greedy, sell outs, Fedor and Dnegs are (& other pros) putting their names on this piece of s**t, complete amaturs. What about Fedors comments that(vetted by GG lol) showed no concern for the customers privacy they freerolled and stole off.

The US gov just shut down wechat/tictok from US residents, good luck on this scam site lasting more than 2 more months. Someone should also put in a complaint about WSOP affiliation with this scam company.
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08-23-2020 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by elendil200
GG site is such a joke on so many levels it seems a little absurd.

How is it still operating? It would appear US facing busineses (WSOP) are dealing with this company. It is completly unregulated, has uncapped rake, steals players money and a myriad of other issues.

The WSOP are a complete joke to use this site to host braclet events. Is WSOP owned by a US casino business? Isnt this enough to break some sort of law? Are they getting a piece of that sweet uncapped rake, % points on stolen funds?

Their media statements are an absolute joke and sound like they are written by some idiot who is out of their element. What greedy, sell outs, Fedor and Dnegs are (& other pros) putting their names on this piece of s**t, complete amaturs. What about Fedors comments that(vetted by GG lol) showed no concern for the customers privacy they freerolled and stole off.

The US gov just shut down wechat/tictok from US residents, good luck on this scam site lasting more than 2 more months. Someone should also put in a complaint about WSOP affiliation with this scam company.
Yes it's funny isn't it
WSOP are not doing any illegal here they are merely licencing their logo and brand name to another company. WSOP does not offer any product themselves and not to US consumers directly. You can travel down the border to play to then find yourself bound by Mexican gambling laws.

As for Fedor he really showed himself and where his priority's are by flat out lying GG redistributed confiscated money. Nice one Fedor.
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08-23-2020 , 10:31 AM
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08-23-2020 , 10:49 AM
For those who said that GGPoker wants to discourage winning players, then why do they offer a large number of rakeback deals to specific groups of regs? There are regs with 100% rakeback based on the volume of play. Maybe because they're friends with Bryn Kenney?

Their policy is not even consistent with their marketing deals.
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08-23-2020 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dhubermex
When I started this thread, I had evidence that GG was involved in many shady stuff, mainly:

- offerring games to countries where Poker is prohibited
- allowing deposits and withdrawals from these players with zero KYC
- offerring obscene rakeback deals in which they could not possibly profit from
- outright confiscating money from winning players for no valid reason.

Surprisingly, they now have exposed themselves further and taken it to another level with this recent post LOL.

Should we start the countdown?
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08-23-2020 , 11:00 AM
This group is just setting you pros up, and will swoop in to confiscate your monies once you start winning. Don't take the bait.
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