Good one

Haven't both GG and Stars made it clear through their actions/explicitly that they don't want pros on their sites anymore. Looking at Charlie Carrels streams with true geordie for instance, it seems like they want guys who treat it like the sportsbook/online casino.

We can argue here all we want but these sites could care less about people on here (with half a clue) playing on there.

Not sure why you would even play poker let alone be on a poker forum with this hateful attitude towards poker pros. Poker is just like any other sport in that it is market driven and the cream rise to the top. It provides entertainment for viewers just like any other sport. Clearly you are not the cream and neither am i but i don't hold a grudge against the players that are.

Why don't you join a forum for one of the "other sports that provide some value" instead.

At this point bumpnrun is a troll and needs to just stop posting with his stupid nonsense. Stop responding to his nonsense.

So they don't want professionals but decided to host the WSOP? You absolutely cannot trust them.

I cannot emphasise enough how shady the owner's previous companies were. It needs to be taken into consideration before you play there. All his previous companies have been horror stories. No exaggeration.

If you're a pro I would suggest you never ever play cash. If you feel you must play cash then cash out daily. You could risk having your whole roll taken and being banned. You could even consider playing there as hard as you can and reaping the rewards for a while until the inevitable banhammer comes, but still cash out daily.

If you just stick to tournaments, then it seems you'll be much safer, as you can't be considered a bum hunter. I would still cash out daily, however.

And never deposit more than you need for the day. Especially not 50k.

What does this mean? What did they say?

GGPoker is a worst scam. i must laugh to see how run spots on twitch gg sponsored cock players and at my own.


its all the same different accounts running good or cold / algorithm will **** you doesnt matter how to play.


you can only big win there if you twitch streamer or known person.


i only change max. 1 time in tourney my table(sample 40 tourneys to mid/late stage), often 3-4hours the same . pool increases to 40-50% no table change and bad beats until im out. on twitch they change to same stage 2/3/4 times. im not paranoid, it feels not real.

housebots from india/israel how join table and winning every hand vpip 70 or higher. leaving shortly...


you all will see the day will come black friday 2.0 reloaded. they scam peoples money when u re a winner with no clue. they can ban for what they want.


after wsop i hope traffic there will be ****ed ... and all leave them and cash out the moneys

If GG Poker does not want professional players on their site, why do they have sponsored streamers and what not? Sure it creates exposure for the site, but does it not seem hypocritical to allow someone to make a living playing on GG so long as they are sponsored by the site? Idk it just rubs me the wrong way when I know someone would probably get banned if they could beat 500nl for a sizeable margin but if they are sponsored by GG then it's cool

Biggest bumhunter is GG Poker itself.

And not on a subtle way, because they just ban the people they don’t want.
They don't want the big winners, because they extract money to fast out of the market. Money GG poker wants to make this money itself.
They probably did the math en calculated from which winrate it is more interesting to ban these players. Don’t earn the rake now of the winning player, but try to keep it on the tables and make more rake in time.

I don’t say something is wrong with this philosophy. Out a business point of view it is probably the most +EV solution. But don’t play the moral card you are doing it for a healthy poker ecosystem, or a fair playing environment. There is nothing fair about banning winning players who worked hard to get this good.


The only reason GG Poker is doing it is GREED.



Secondly, If you do a verification check and let people send a lot of private information. Go do the verification procedure.
You can’t let people think they passed the verification while you are only gathering data and wait for months/years till people cash out and then start you verification.

For example in the Duddi7 case. If he sends his a copy of his ID. They should at least check this specific data on the moment they ask for it(Name and birthdate for example). They can’t suggest they are doing verification while they only store this information and put it in a drawer to take out on a moment of their choosing.
They have to be held accountable for not acting in a proper time while they already held the information for banning someone.

Ofcourse when someone cashes out they can do another/extra verification procedure. They can ask extra information and if something is wrong act like it. But it must be something that could not come up on the moment of the first verification.

God your insufferable. Do you think that last sentence “putting me in my place” makes up for the rest of your clueless dribble?

Bezos. BEZOS. A man who has generated countless jobs and given people access to knowledge and products. He’s provided immense VALUE to society. lol at comparing his tax situation which is all about investing profits into the US economy to yours which is all about paying NOTHING and providing NO VALUE

Your tennis analogy .....man. Are you really that stupid? Can you figure out the difference between amateur tennis players and poker players? I really can’t be bothered explaining if not . Looks like this is now the main GG thread so I’ll stop the derail for now

Just play for playmoney and you get exactly the experience you are looking for bumpnrun. This way you just make it look like you are bitter because you can´t beat poker.

Dude you dont get it, its absolutely imperative that he lets us know that we're all worthless and dont provide any value to society. Thank **** he enlightened us.

Personally, Im not sure who else would redistribute funds from boomers to hookers and drug dealers this efficiently, but that guy seems wise so wtf do I know.

Edit: **** me forgot about investment bankers.

I like this stance some people are taking. Oh you can win!! Just not a lot guys! Don't try to sit people when they sit down, its not nice! Scary! This friendly game, we play for money for joke come on! So predatory, I just want to win!!!!! Be nice to me! Why they no always make me win!?!

GG poker can only get worse from this point on.

hate the branding

can't even type GG in chat anymore without having a bad feeling about marketing for these shady robots.

Layout is quite funky but too many extra buttons that have no real purpose.

Yeah this exactly. Every time a poker pro spends his money in a shop or buys absolutely anything at all he is contributing to society and to the economy.
Countries are better off with poker pros living in them, especially online pros or live mtt pros, because they are bringing in money from other countries.

Maybe that's why a few euro countries segregated themselves, too many donks donating abroad? I would like to play those euro sites to see if they are softer instead of Sweden, Finland, Russia etc who we are stuck with on the ROW sites. Sorry for the derail.

This guy also makes an interesting claim: GGPoker TOS aren't clear.

Some softwares are prohibited, some allowed. But they don't specify which.
They say that HUDs are prohibited, but GGPoker streamers use them while streaming (I wonder how they would differentiate someone with PT4 open to play Stars from someone using a HUD on GG).

Basically their TOS is written in a way that they can, at any time, confiscate your funds and argue that you broke the TOS.

Which is exactly what they've been doing recently.

This is why heads up is best for fish, only 50% of the table tries to grind out a living.

GG has peak Full Tilt vibes atm. Nosebleed sickos signed up as pros, massive cash games running, preliminary rumblings of shady activity. I hope lightning doesn't strike twice. Do we even know if they are segregating all player funds?

Correct video:

Yes. It's a mix between Full Tilt and Absolute Poker/Ultimate Bet (which all regs knew was a shady operation with shady owners, but they played anyways because the field was soft).

apples and oranges ... FTP went down b/c of the black friday. without the wire problems, which resulted in the massive amount of phantom money, FTP prolly could have stayed afloat, even how poorly they handled money.

and "segregating all player funds" isn't as straight forward, as it sounds. my memory is a bit fussy, but i think there are 3 tiers of 'protection' and depending on what kind of financial problems the company has, the money could be gone anyway. e.g. PKR had some sort of protection but at the end it didn't matter.

i believe pokerfuse once did some digging and pp weirdly enough had a pretty low protection (which they upped since then). nevertheless, pp has GVC behind so i think this matters more. until gg is a more transparent company i wouldn't trust w/ my whole bankroll anyway, even if they have the highest 'protection of funds'

From 2018: Player Funds Protection in the UK: How Online Poker Operators Protect Your Money. We have updated it a few times since and endevour to keep it up to date.

Partypoker originally had a "basic" declaration. A few weeks after we published this, they upgraded it to Medium.

The page actually needs a bit of an update. The UKGC has actually renamed "basic" to "no protection" to basically highlight that, as the article points out, it really affords no protection for players in the event in insolvency. So we should update the article.

GGPoker is on there under "basic protection."

Fwiw, the key points at the top of that article are worth reading. It is self-reported and mostly unverified, nothing is 100%, no "high" declaration has actually been put to the test in courts, there is no guarantee that sites apply this policy for deposits from players outside the UK.

thank you!

As much as I hate it, the fact is that this seems to be true for a lot recs. They much rather lose to the house than to some nerd, that they feel superior to. The success of GG shows this is true.