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Originally Posted by PlasticElephant
I will support the micro stakes boycott.
Ofc you are missing the point though, the reason this boycott has chance of success is because:
- There is a small community, all of whom know each other
- They are all relatively smart
- The rake has been increased so much, the opportunity cost of not playing is very low, so people are more likely to comply even purely in their own interest. You don't cost yourself much by not playing unbeatable games.
At smaller stakes the tragedy of the commons problem becomes much harder, because the games are beatable despite the rake, and people are less educated so they will not realise the games are unbeatable where they are.
Its not about the fact that its easy to organize ssnl boycott, lower iq of ssnl population not realizing u cant beat games or whatever else, in this thread here.
Its about the fact that HS players openly supported site (obv would never blame them, would do the same in that position) that sets dangerous trends for the whole industry, which puts majority of MSNL-SSNL cash games in scam positions, because at the time it was strictly in their own short term interest.
They all very well knew that any non 2-5k+ players were butfked on that site, and that that site was growing huge, and those 5k+ games (being streamed/posted in news), while they were printing a ton of $, only added extra advertisement to a site (as a matter of fact its the only reason GG would even care about those games on their site in the first place, not because they make a lot of rake from those games, cmon man).
1nvoker openly said on stream `GG will actually eventually kill online poker with their tendencies if it continues in that direction, and will grow further`. This is a fact.
Its just that everyone (incl HS players) only care about their own bottom line at the time (lets not lie to each other, we`re not 12 here), not `integrity long-term sustainability of poker world, fairness` and all the blablablablablabla described/camouflaged in the OP w those cool looking phrases.
That same thing (insane rake w lol pvi etc) was happening to all msnl- play on that very same site site, and that site was setting tendencies for the whole industry on other sites (which is the worst of all it), as GG was getting stronger and stronger the larger with each day (including getting promoted by these very same games being played that were extremely profitable for HS players at the time, obv alongside w a ton of other factors).
p.s. obv the whole `if u dont do X, we`ll leave for PS/WPN or elsewhere were rake is a lot lower etc` empty threat is one big kekW, everyone (starting with GG owners) know that aint gonna work.
This niche doesnt have competition in 2023 realistically speaking.
And reasonably explaining something to scummy asians doesnt strike me with how big avg IQ of HS player should technically be on AVG.
The whole `GG will lose a lot of rake if our games wont continue running at 5k+` argument is a very cute way of exclusively protecting ur own bottom line.
If u translate OP in normal (from veiled) language:
`Please roll back 4 to 7bb rake changes such that a group of 90-150`ish players can continue print a ton of money on ur site (while 1000`s of lower stakes regs all across all platforms will continue to suffer consequences of biggest scam site getting larger and larger and continue setting dangerous trends to the entire industry), and NO - we dont rly care about industry long term sustainability, but we`re gonna pretend we do`.
Last edited by lancelott_; 04-05-2023 at 04:18 PM.