I do not comprehend how such an effort can even be legal in a world where the EU GDPR rules exist; Publishing a list of alleged criminals (remember, fraud is a crime) is so wildly outside my understanding of the law that I just assume that no lawyer has ever looked at this proposal.

It is one thing to decline service to customers to your own business. It is another thing to send personally identifying details to other companies and tell them that the person is a suspected criminal and that they should not serve you.

I wonder if the members of the council understand their personal liability issues if they declare anyone a cheat

Hopefully they do better than that clown Rob Yong: He tried to do something similar a few years ago with PartyPoker, including publishing a website falsely claiming an association with the UK Gambling Commission. They were not impressed by Yong's deceptive and false use of their logo.

I mean is ClubGG legal?

GG are pretty adept at operating in legal grey areas. Not sure where the loophole exists with GDPR but I am sure they will find some.

Koon and his RTA on a RTA busting team? Oh the irony

Ah good point. Yeah, this is tricky because of the global implications and implementations such a council will have.

The obvious precedent is the Griffin Book. And even then, not everyone on that list took it well: https://lasvegassun.com/news/2005/se...er-11-citing-/. So I can't imagine how the PIC will work when it comes to laws and jurisdictions all over the world.

for the integrity council, this doesnt scream integrity to me:

whats funny is they don't respond to criticism but if a person makes good recommendation on their discord it is implemented pretty rapidly. They have amazing customer service when they feel like it.

So the Integrity Council is already BS?

https://www.reddit.com/r/GGPokerComm...eb2x&context=3

Shouldn't we have kept the existence of this principle secret as well then?

I'm pretty sure that I know what the secret is. In fact if you think about it, its kinda obvious (it has to do with the special line of observationI defined in another thread!). I also don't want to reveal it. But now I'm worried since Mason let the cat out of the bag that the cheaters might also have realized it. In short I think it would be better to openly discuss so we can develop a counter-strategy to the cheating groups counter-strategy (to mine and mason's statistical conjecture).


People can dm for the secret method. I'm also working on the statistics of whether one man can outfox the evolving predicament and software involved with the class of global cheaters...if anyone knows a good statistician to help uncover this please pass it on.

This is like the blue ribbon fact finding commission led by Stan Gable and Miss Betty Childs

I have seen numerous threads before accusing GG of banning winning players. There have been a number of stories and rumours which seem suspicious. Now whilst I acknowledge I have not had/seen conclusive evidence that GG have in fact been doing this with the motivation of kicking off winning players, there has definitely been scope to be suspicious and weary. There is a reason I do not play on GG and have never opened an account there.

Mainly because I am under the impression that if I win too much or have too higher ROI they could ban me under the guise of falsely accusing me of cheating or under the guise of affordability checks which is becoming a thing in the UK.

The only thing which I have done in poker that some may call shady is game selecting. GG calls this bum hunting so to speak. I don't go ridiculous on this line but yes sometimes I look at a sit and go and see it has a too high reg ration so do not register or unregister. And yes I have looked at sit and goes before and seen a load of players I know to be weak and thus pounced.

I do not view that as cheating and I assume most of the poker world do not. When I was playing live poker pre pandemic I knew who the good players were and who the weak players were, I was not going to hang around if the game was full of pros, and was if I saw a high ratio of weak players. GG calls this cheating would I face world wide bans for this?

I dont trust GG and thus I do not feel comfortable with them leading this charge. I think nearly all of us would like to see cheaters banned but actual cheaters, not a witch hunt or people with ulterior motives seeking to ban legit players for their own reasons.

How could five Virgins know anything of cheating or getting cheated?

I'm "pretty sure" you don't.

Mason

If we guess it will you tell us? How do we know the bad guys haven't figured it out now that you let the cat out the bag that it exists.

All answers are no.

Mason

GG Poker is the site that bans players for simply winning. GG Poker player rewards system is a complete scam. GG Poker's rake gouges their customers. It's just comical the online poker site with the least amount of integrity is the one starting a "Poker Integrity Council." It's disinformation. And the members of the GG Poker Council are players they pay to promote the site. It doesnt get any more gestapo than that.

Right, as I mentioned earlier in the thread it's like Stan Gable and Miss Betty Childs heading up the fact finding blue ribbon investigation to find out who destroyed the Tri Lambs house

dont worry they wont ban you they will just make your rakeback almost 0 without really telling you (pvi) and you cant really win with their high preflop rake without rakeback and leaderboard chasing. to be fair as much as I hate the way gg is run I was never convinced they were actively banning winning players and even if they were it was like 3 year ago and they are not actively doing it

I dont see why this has to be done by high profile players. except for the publicity effect which benefits the celeb players and the site, but not the playerpool.


the biggest cheaters in online poker likely use stolen or bought identities and have routines to replace accounts anyway. Sites should invest in qualified data scientists and probably share characteristics/strategies/methods of caught cheaters not their identities.

Stars used to have a pretty good reputation but that is long lost due to them reducing staff at any give opportunity.

Pure marketing move from GG and those involved, they are not allowed to share the details of any barred players and the PIC members are not more equipped than the members of any major poker site Game Integrity team to identify any wrongdoing.