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02-13-2024 , 01:23 AM
Good day everyone,

I am the one who won the top bounty in the event: Mystery Million Main Event ($1M top bounty GTD)

I received the letter from GG Poker (Natural 8) about the top bounty was 780k, instead of 1M as it is guaranteed. And their solution to keep the promise is to split $220k to everyone, which in my opinion is totally unfair. The promise is $1M for top bounty, so the one who is affected is me, not other 5000 players who in the money, because they have won more than they are supposed to. I am the only one who lost this amount.

Their tournament is $1M GTD for top bounty, surely that is the main reason many players joined and hunted it. I think that is the promise they should keep of gtd, not spliting money.
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02-13-2024 , 01:55 AM
What explanation did they give for paying 780k instead of 1M, that's bizarre and also just such a random amount too??
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02-13-2024 , 02:00 AM
Hahahah GG raked you 220k.

Remember, that's not a problem. More rake is better
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02-13-2024 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by metza
What explanation did they give for paying 780k instead of 1M, that's bizarre and also just such a random amount too??
They said: Due to a technical problem (server crash) the day prior to the event. And their solution after the event finished is to split $220k to 50000 players ($4 each), while $220k should belong to the top bounty winner as they promised ($1M GTD).

Last edited by 6betfold!; 02-13-2024 at 02:46 AM.
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02-13-2024 , 03:05 AM
Spliting 220k for all other players doesn’t mean they keep promises of GTD for the bounty.
1outer bad beat. Lolz. They should pay you the rest of 220k
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02-13-2024 , 03:56 AM
*joke about OP being unlucky here*
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02-13-2024 , 05:11 AM
Get the 780k off gg ASAP, be polite and understanding but don't sign anything or agree to anything regarding the missing 220k.

Once money is off the side, get a lawyer and sue them.

In Dependance on which country ure from might be successful.

Another ridic thing from this site. Bonkers.
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02-13-2024 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by alberthofmann
Get the 780k off gg ASAP, be polite and understanding but don't sign anything or agree to anything regarding the missing 220k.

Once money is off the side, get a lawyer and sue them.

In Dependance on which country ure from might be successful.

Another ridic thing from this site. Bonkers.
yeah, this is a very solid advice
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02-13-2024 , 05:45 AM
>play on scam site

>get scammed

Incredible.

The site is regulated in the same sense CoinFLEX was regulated. Get your money off and don't return.
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02-13-2024 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 6betfold!
They said: Due to a technical problem (server crash) the day prior to the event.
That seems like a feeble reason. The tournament had scores of day 1 tournaments over at least a week.

I could see an argument on their side if on a guaranteed tourney a technical error had stopped players registering well before the end of late reg. This case seems to be stretching that too far.

In any case, a site making as much money as GG should be erring on the side of players.
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02-13-2024 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 6betfold!
And their solution to keep the promise is to split $220k to everyone
I doubt very much they simply transferred £220k from you to others. The overall guarantee was $5m so I imagine what they did was reduce the pay-outs across the board and £220k was the proportional hit in your case.
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02-13-2024 , 06:26 AM
I just received an email from GG (Natural 8)

“ Dear player,

For clarity's sake, the software client correctly displayed the $780,000 at the start of the tournament, and at the time of the Mystery Bounty draw.

Due to this, the Network believes that crediting the $220,000 equally to all players is the fairest way of distributing the payments.”

I really doubt how is it called “the fairest way” when they guaranteed $1M for top bounty winner but paid only $780k, the missing $220k is splited to others?
A guarantee is a guanrantee. $1M is $1M, isn’t it?
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02-13-2024 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by raidalot
That seems like a feeble reason. The tournament had scores of day 1 tournaments over at least a week.
Really bad look for GG to change GTD after people have already built up a chip stack in the tournament.
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02-13-2024 , 07:23 AM
It's not like it's the first time they've done it
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02-13-2024 , 07:50 AM
Latest email from GG:

“ Since the change to $780,000 was clearly, and widely available from start of tournament to start of the Bounty Draw (Which means every player should know what the Top Bounty was)”

It’s obvious that they miss the key point about GTD.

As long as the GTD is announce before the beginning of the tournament, no matter $1M, $500k or $100k, player has the right to choose to play or not.

Their guarantee is $1M for top bounty, even at the beginning of Day 2 it’s still $1M. And all of the sudden, when player got into the money, the top bounty is $780k, not as it is guaranteed. They said that everyone know the how much the top bounty is. What could everyone do when they already are in the money and the top bounty is not as guaranteed? They quit the game or they have to continue playing?

By the way it worked, in the future if there is any GTD tourney, then GG (N8) can give some reason “technical thing” and pay less than player are supposed to? That is absolutely not how GTD works.
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02-13-2024 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 6betfold!
I just received an email from GG (Natural 8)

... “For clarity's sake, the software client correctly displayed the $780,000 at the start of the tournament, and at the time of the Mystery Bounty draw."
This is nonsense. The start of the tournament was the start of the first day 1.

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Originally Posted by 6betfold!
"Due to this, the Network believes that crediting the $220,000 equally to all players is the fairest way of distributing the payments.”
They talk about "crediting" the $220k to other players. That implies they have somehow given it to others. They haven't, they've just taken it from you and pocketed it.

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Originally Posted by 6betfold!
“Since the change to $780,000 was clearly, and widely available from start of tournament to start of the Bounty Draw (Which means every player should know what the Top Bounty was)”
Lol. The players may have known the top bounty after they changed it. The issue is that they changed it in the first place!
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02-13-2024 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by alberthofmann
Get the 780k off gg ASAP, be polite and understanding but don't sign anything or agree to anything regarding the missing 220k.

Once money is off the side, get a lawyer and sue them.

In Dependance on which country ure from might be successful.

Another ridic thing from this site. Bonkers.
This.

Did you manage to withdraw the 780K?

GG are such scumbags that I wouldn't attempt to argue with them until the bulk of your money is off the site first. Then I would get evidence of the advertising they used to advertise this $1m bounty and sue the pants off them. 220k split between 5,000 people wasn't advertised and none of those people pulled the main bounty so why are they entitled to anything? Also it makes no sense, if they paid the 220k anyway why split it and not pay it to you directly, bizarre.
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02-13-2024 , 08:51 AM
Be careful if you're thinking about suing them. It would suck if you got the money off and then burnt through tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands on a lawsuit that went nowhere because there's nothing that can be done.
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02-13-2024 , 09:37 AM
Win a 780k jackpot bounty and its still a bad beat,
Sick.
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02-13-2024 , 10:01 AM
You need to type up all the details succinctly at the start of these.

They may or may not have wording that let's them change the top bounty and not specifically honor the word guarantee.

Seems quirky to just give everyone 4$ though. Like the displayed prize pool for the entire tourney was 220k short? How does that even happen?
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02-13-2024 , 12:08 PM
6bet, for a small fee of 50,000 dollars, I will vow to help you get the money back from GG
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02-13-2024 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by alberthofmann
Get the 780k off gg ASAP, be polite and understanding but don't sign anything or agree to anything regarding the missing 220k.

Once money is off the side, get a lawyer and sue them.

In Dependance on which country ure from might be successful.

Another ridic thing from this site. Bonkers.
+1 - this is exactly how to do it.
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02-13-2024 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerfan655
+1 - this is exactly how to do it.
I would also save anything related to the promotion which promised the top prize by screenshot, etc., even if it means paying someone to grab the information via a historical search.

You may wish to file a formal complaint with the gaming commission first, before litigation.
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02-13-2024 , 11:17 PM
Just to provide some clarity based on what I know : The prizepool wasn't 220k short. The correct $ amount was paid out just the distribution was different due to an error in their software so that the bounty prizepool was split in a less top-heavy way, resulting in a top bounty of 780k instead of 1mil. The bounty distribution was shown correctly in the lobby from the moment the tournament started - everyone knew the top bounty was 780k from the very first hand of day2 but the average value of a bounty remained unchanged. They decided to distribute an extra 220k to everyone that played the tournament as an apology for their error. GG deserves criticism for a lot of things but this isn't one of them imo. Yeah, it sucks the algorithm malfunctioned and maybe some people can say "I wouldn't have played the tournament if it was 780k first bounty" but I think they handled it in a good way.

Last edited by Alexo; 02-13-2024 at 11:24 PM.
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02-13-2024 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Alexo
Just to provide some clarity based on what I know : The prizepool wasn't 220k short. The correct $ amount was paid out just the distribution was different due to an error in their software so that the bounty prizepool was split in a less top-heavy way, resulting in a top bounty of 780k instead of 1mil. The bounty distribution was shown correctly in the lobby from the moment the tournament started - everyone knew the top bounty was 780k from the very first hand of day2 but the average value of a bounty remained unchanged. They decided to distribute an extra 220k to everyone that played the tournament as an apology for their error. GG deserves criticism for a lot of things but this isn't one of them imo. Yeah, it sucks the algorithm malfunctioned and maybe some people can say "I wouldn't have played the tournament if it was 780k first bounty" but I think they handled it in a good way.
That makes even less sense. You haven't addressed the actual issue at all.
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