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GGPoker killing the HS poker dream? GGPoker killing the HS poker dream?

11-19-2024 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Lol no whale feels any differently about playing elky or someone named Wiktor get real.

Beating Helmuth Ivey Dnegs sure. Maybe even some of the big vloggers. But not a couple of guys none of their friends have ever heard of.
I think you underestimate whales' thought process. Playing against known elite players is way different than playing with some random nobody "ambassador"
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11-20-2024 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
yes the only reason to play GG is because they allow fish from china russia etc that arent welcome on most other sites.

stars still offers normal hs tables with very very low rake, jump in
See you joke, but this is literally why GG have done this. regs dont battle each other, and you're constantly looking for easy opponents. But then people complain when its private games and / or 7bb/100
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11-20-2024 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GranAutismo
So who is actually playing the HS games, and who's excluded?
Bump.
Has there been increased action at 1k/2k in recent days because it’s now the highest publicly available stake?
Or has it declined because suddenly Barak f’in wisbrod is in the pool?
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11-20-2024 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
Bump.
Has there been increased action at 1k/2k in recent days because it’s now the highest publicly available stake?
Or has it declined because suddenly Barak f’in wisbrod is in the pool?
Definitely increased. 2k lots of reg battling
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11-21-2024 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by eenvis
Definitely increased. 2k lots of reg battling
surely this is losing though, if rake is so high at 2Knl
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11-21-2024 , 07:55 AM
Life is good for misha 650K dollars in 8K hands.
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11-21-2024 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Yulotanakhon
Life is good for misha 650K dollars in 8K hands.

He may be break even now GG

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11-21-2024 , 12:01 PM
Everything about this situation just screams that this has been orchestrated by Misha and Elky (and other GG insiders), and as part of the deal they are 99% certainly mandated to sell large percentages of themselves in the games to other GG insiders.
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11-21-2024 , 12:46 PM
Still weird that there's no $ sign in the exclusive games
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11-21-2024 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LA-here
Still weird that there's no $ sign in the exclusive games
This makes me think that there is something else at play behind this change. When the boycott happened they actually went back and reverted the changes which showed that they cared about HS games, just to change their opinion only a year and a half later and completely kill the games, makes no sense to me. Another weird thing is where are all the VIPs that used to play before the change, why are they not playing? Right now I am only seeing house regs and some new VIPs playing what looks like a play money games without the $ sign.
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11-21-2024 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Doe
This makes me think that there is something else at play behind this change. When the boycott happened they actually went back and reverted the changes which showed that they cared about HS games, just to change their opinion only a year and a half later and completely kill the games, makes no sense to me. Another weird thing is where are all the VIPs that used to play before the change, why are they not playing? Right now I am only seeing house regs and some new VIPs playing what looks like a play money games without the $ sign.
Yeah there's something fishy about this. Although it could be a lot of the previous VIP fish don't like the new changes either and decided to stop playing there
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11-21-2024 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Doe
This makes me think that there is something else at play behind this change. When the boycott happened they actually went back and reverted the changes which showed that they cared about HS games, just to change their opinion only a year and a half later and completely kill the games, makes no sense to me. Another weird thing is where are all the VIPs that used to play before the change, why are they not playing? Right now I am only seeing house regs and some new VIPs playing what looks like a play money games without the $ sign.
Do you think GG liked being forced by a boycott of HS regs to change their policies? Part of what they are doing is to adopt a format where the HS regs lose that blackmail ability. The HS regs hurt GG's bottom line; time to repay the favor.
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11-22-2024 , 04:39 PM
VIP lobby is now deader than it was at the time of the HS boycott LOL

Great move GG!
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11-22-2024 , 07:44 PM
This make me laugh… because it proves what I said years ago


Even if sites did ban “the best players” all that will happen is other players will evolve into the Megalodon of the site

So what’s GG gonna do? Ban Misha and Elky too? Then again.. the process repeats and someone else becomes the new winning players again … so it achieves nothing by doing it really
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11-23-2024 , 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mycka86
He may be break even now GG

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Wonder where his bitterness against winning regs came from
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11-23-2024 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by super_dave31
This make me laugh… because it proves what I said years ago


Even if sites did ban “the best players” all that will happen is other players will evolve into the Megalodon of the site

So what’s GG gonna do? Ban Misha and Elky too? Then again.. the process repeats and someone else becomes the new winning players again … so it achieves nothing by doing it really
It seems like they want to reach a point where everyone's win rate is the same....zero?
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11-23-2024 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
It seems like they want to reach a point where everyone's win rate is the same....zero?
Then why are players like Misha allowed in the pool? Hes clearly a shark in this particular pool and doesnt help the goal of achieving ~0 win rates for all players.

Getting ~0 winrate for everyone is completely unrealistic as there will always be massive differences between individual players of all skill levels. Even if you took 6 players who everyone see as whales and put them on the same table, the result would be that one of the whales would be the shark in that specific pond. Like imagine a table of Gus Hansen, Guy Laliberte, Santosh, Tesla, Tan Xuan, Eric Persson. All of these players have been considered whales in various games, but put them together on one table and Im pretty sure one or more of of them will emerge as a shark with large win rate..

So why are they even doing this? The only way for it to make sense is that its a conscious decision where Misha and Elky (and Fedor) have been picked to have exclusive access to high win rate games.
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11-23-2024 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Then why are players like Misha allowed in the pool? Hes clearly a shark in this particular pool and doesnt help the goal of achieving ~0 win rates for all players.

Getting ~0 winrate for everyone is completely unrealistic as there will always be massive differences between individual players of all skill levels. Even if you took 6 players who everyone see as whales and put them on the same table, the result would be that one of the whales would be the shark in that specific pond. Like imagine a table of Gus Hansen, Guy Laliberte, Santosh, Tesla, Tan Xuan, Eric Persson. All of these players have been considered whales in various games, but put them together on one table and Im pretty sure one or more of of them will emerge as a shark with large win rate..

So why are they even doing this? The only way for it to make sense is that its a conscious decision where Misha and Elky (and Fedor) have been picked to have exclusive access to high win rate games.

Most likely reason to do this is GG or individuals at GG get given a percentage of winnings from those they allow to access the high win rate games.
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11-24-2024 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Polarbear1955
Most likely reason to do this is GG or individuals at GG get given a percentage of winnings from those they allow to access the high win rate games.
Yea I fully agree. Its basically a scam. If you play on GG you are not playing against a real pool of players. You are playing against selected GG employees chosen by GG to ensure that not only are you paying rake, but the majority of your losses go to the site as well. Without being told that this is the case. And if you are better than the GG employees you are not allowed to play at all, so you will lose or get banned from the games.
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11-24-2024 , 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Yea I fully agree. Its basically a scam. If you play on GG you are not playing against a real pool of players. You are playing against selected GG employees chosen by GG to ensure that not only are you paying rake, but the majority of your losses go to the site as well. Without being told that this is the case. And if you are better than the GG employees you are not allowed to play at all, so you will lose or get banned from the games.
It would make sense as to why they remove the $ sign but I think this is too sketchy even for GG to do. The operators can't have pieces of certain players.

They have basically killed off the games at high stakes. There won't be any utopia where Elky and co. are playing significant volume against recs. I find it hard to believe GG didn't know this would happen and suspect there must have been some other motivation at play.
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