Maybe kruse emptied his account before he got caught, just because he won $ from you doesn’t mean you will get every dollar you won back. However no way to know because GG doesn’t seem overly transparent with very much.

This is a cross-post from the other related NVG thread.

Dominik Nitsche joins "The Lock-In" to discuss GGPoker's recent actions, RTA, Kruse, etc.

[12:38-28:48] & [32:00-33:48]

not for a second did he consider why this could be a good thing, complete garbage from his mouth! To only suggest this is unfair and likely that the bans we're unjust is a scary point of view.

Glad to know you support potential cheaters, scumlord.

does anyone else think a 2008 account with 72 posts is probably a sock

so now you dont even need to be a cheater just a potential cheater.

Must have missed it, why was Talbot banned?

https://mundopoker.com.br/pedro-made...etalha-o-caso/

"I wasn't using it when I was playing that final table, for example"

Well it is all good then. Excuse us. Seems GG is doing a good job finding these cheaters.

At least give proper context. In the article he actually says " I never used this software while playing a hand, I wasn't using it when I was playing that final table, for example".

I also run bunch of RTA software in the background while I play poker. It is just for fun and jokes.

Equilab is not RTA, its very easy to sometimes foget to close something like this. GG could easily just not let you open the client when you have some software open like Stars, but they like to have an excuse to ban people when they win too much.

Pretty silly to ban someone because he forgot powerequilab on the background twice. Though they also mention nash charts.

Pokerstars for example sends you a message if you forget any forbidden software when you open the client. Happened to me once, now I always reboot the pc before start playing just in case.

Anway ggpoker security dont seem to be the smartest people in the world so to speak.

Don't take the article out of context, he says he never used equilab in that tournament. Just reading the article it feels like a random ban, but then we only heard the site of the guy. Maybe gg has more evidence, but would be weird for him to go public if he really cheated.

As said a million times gg is of the biggest site by far the sketichest one.

Would not advertise to anyone playing there. What's the point of grinding and then all your work was for nothing caus they randomly ban u.

It's one of the worst sites atm. I would rather play on acr and deal with the bot stuff then on gg.

people will still play on gg if the alternatives are as poor as they currently are, simple as

Doesn't help stars has been self sabotaging for years, latest change being forcing everyone to play on shitty new software vs the old best in the business

Party has the same problem (although party is 1000x more credible of a site), it's really not hard to either introduce your own restrictions or just contact the developers of banned but legal software and ask them to do it on their end.

I accidentally left pio open one time with party and received a warning, now i have borderline anxiety when i open the client and sometimes when i forget if i closed something/panic and check my taskbar to make sure it isn't open but minimized.

Whole thing is stupid bc if im going to cheat im not going to be using my main laptop anyway, just feels like a lazy free roll from the sites imo.

Most of the points I was going to make have already been taken but looking through one point got missed out.
What about appeals process I mean say I play some heads up sngs on GG poker and I have memorized Nash hand chart from 10bb downwards, ( i actually have for 8 bb downwards but slightly changed it to push marginly wider then suggested and call marginally tighter the logic been most recs in my experience play slighly to tight) do I then get flagged up as a cheat and banned? with my money seized is there then an appeal process where I can prove that I have memorized the hand charts?

Generally as others have stated if i get banned and keep winnings not really room to complain any business has the right to ban customers.

If they confiscate my money or my winnings that is not really fair if they are doing so without good evidence.

I generally feel more comfortable if their is some form of appeals process that stands a good chance of succeeding if you have good grounds to appeal just we are seizing your money our decision is final no negotation or appeal or discussion it makes me feel uncomfortable. I mean I would imagine an appeal been they question me on the hand charts and test my memory.

If I could prove that I hve memorized the hand charts I would like to assume I would win legal action if i took this path.
However the concerns here been
1. I cannot be sure I would win legal action even with this proof law can be funny and some cases I have heard about have not resulted in a decision I thought fair.
2. It would cost far to much to pursue legal action as a small stakes player my income from the game and my networth would not be able to support a lengthly legal battle.
3. even if successful legal claim this would likely involve many years of stress and financial sacrifice to afford the lawyers even if i did get compensated for legal fees as well
4 even if I won GG poker would likely appeal the decision and I would be locked in for an even more costly and lengthy legal battle.

I actually have some direct experience of big law suits not gambling related. I worked for small companies that took on big companies in court and won. The general crux is the big companies were so outragously in the wrong you would think their could be no legal grounds they can stand on. But they had very expensive lawyers who found every technicality and loop hole you could think of and dragged the court case on for many years meanwhile the smaller companies almost went bust with legal fees and faced extream strain.

due to the costs involved legal action is not really something often available to the small guy.

So long story short, with no appeal or regulatory body to hold GG to account my winnings could be siezed on accussations without evidence and their would be no realistic recourse I could have.

This is why I never made an account on GG poker and why I have no intentions of doing so in future.

Why do you feel the need to post when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about?

if you donks can't understand he was cheating after you read the whole thing, I have few things I want to sell to you.

he does that in the monthly high stakes thread too, but never posts hands.

On topic: played GG like one week and saw so much sitouts and table hopping when fun players leaves while they do it so obviously on the VIP tables too. From my perspective GG is only banning big winners and completely fails to enforce their „rules“. so I don’t really trust them handling it in any other way with RTA stuff

He’s pointing out you don’t know what you’re talking about because you don’t. See your joke he replied to for an example....... you’re cluttering up a rather important thread with a half understanding of what’s even being discussed.

They don't have some software that compares your play to GTO. There are many reason why that wouldn't work.

As for appeals, you will be lucky if they ever reply to you after the first email.

Pretty sure no illegal softwares are involved.

17 tables is not too many. i have a relatively shitty laptop and a very old almost useless monitor, and sometimes i play 14 tables(not for too long tho) for the leaderboard. pretty sure could play 18 if i have a decent pc and 2FHD monitors.

How does one use a solver in real time on a different computer when there minimum 6 positions to solve just for SRP..I mean, how does one manage to analyze the data in real time during the time frame constraints? Also, Like which solver actually has all positions and flops solved on one open instance that are easily accessible? this confuses me.

Like, let's say you solve every position for every flop imaginable.. how do you even have access to every range and tree available when every instance is solved for 2 ranges....?