No. I'm not in the camp that outright banning winning players is good for the game but I already outlined in a previous post that GGPoker doesn't offer very many niche games where table selecting or bumhunting can be much of an issue. As far as I was aware majority of the players that were told to leave in the past have been cash game regs who played on the normal tables and one Spin and Go stable was hit hard and told to leave from their Spin and Gold format. Both these formats are pretty much the only formats where certain players or a pool of players could control the lobbies and table select in a way to target weaker recreational players. Most of the other formats they offer either have much higher liquidity and zero table selection or the game or format offered is just such high variance that's it's not an issue.

It's in GGpoker's right to tell players to leave their site and again as far as I was aware most of them were able to withdrawal their bankrolls beforehand and most all of them also played games in the category outlined above. If I'm wrong and GGpoker has been asking "RushandCash" or "MTT" crushers to leave for no other reason than they are winning too much money then I disagree with it but as long as those players are allowed to withdrawal their bankrolls then I find it in GG's right to do so.

RTA as mentioned in the thread's title or other forms of cheating is certainly a whole different issue and those players should be banned and have their bankrolls confiscated if proof is determined in those cases.

What do you mean by "niche games"?

Hope you don't take this personally but again, you bring up bumhunting and make it seems like players were asked to leave because of that. Some players may have been asked to leave for bumhunting reasons but I haven't seen anybody in this thread refer to that (could be wrong tough).

To my knowledge, GG made a statement saying they've warned and banned players without fund confiscation for rta use??? Then people started to say that those were targeted just because they were winning (don't know if it was confirmed but that would fit the above). Of course it's in their right to ask winning players to leave, but don't you think it's a litle bit shady to use the RTA use as a pretext? Why don't they just own it?

Niche might be the wrong term.



Just take a look at the above image though. They don't offer Heads Up, certain sit and go varieties, mixed games, etc that some of their other competitors offer where specialists can have high winrates against the weaker opponents at medium to higher stakes. It's a very bare bones product in that sense. Their "zoom" format which is "rushandcash" only goes up to 1/2 NL/PLO so that offers very high liquidity which is capped out at a very modest stake.

The only games they offer at medium to highstakes where both table selection and a high winrates are attainable are the games in the middle.

lol at people still beliving that GG bans "winning" players. Define winning?
160k people during peak hours but banned people are in lower hundreads because they are simply winning.
and many complaining here are from America, therefor never played or will (on global) play there.

GTO almost perfect play (correlated into constant winning) and RTA is banned at GG poker. (more cash players)

Yeah sure, i am shilling for GG and winning players get banned (80) but 160k are losers and you are butt-hurt because you are in that 0.0005% of winning players.

go play on PS then, oh wait PS is also banning players also for RTA or similar GTO play (as you can`t 100% proof he uses RTA), so good players will be always be caught in the crossfire. But PS doesn't do it so public when they are banning. Also curious when they do ban someone, PS also provide proof? GTFO.

Why you try so hard to be rhetoric?

"Why only pros lol? And how are you going to do this if they ban all of them?"

More high stakes pros are playing on GG then any other site and yes i am talking about MTTs. No rec will dare challenge a know pro in cash game, must be a whale or brain dead if so.
I though it was obvious i was talking about MTTs, cash games are more boring due to robotic style of play. Cash games will never create a boom in Poker industry, where Moneymaker showed you can play and win at a poker table full of pros due to the special nature of MTTS, hence you are rhetoric (if you didnt knew this or just trolling me, GG)

ban all winning players? lool, yeah you are trolling me or i should be worried that i will get banned too?

If one can't beat RTA why even play poker?

You can, its called sucking-out. its more common among fish, the site reward us sometime to keep reloading because there is a change to win against winning players, which according to this thread all winning players are just perfect GTO players, there is nothing in between.

One can only dream to get a "suck-out" against one of this winning players (a.k.a perfect GTO players), if not i hope they get banned!

upon reviewing my posts i might come off as obnoxious, i`ll try to behave from now on

all have a good day

thanks IID2M

I'm guessing it's this hand vs Ivey that I'm just about to watch on HSP

Nope, not this one. Adelstein has been doing quite badly though.

They obviously don't ban all winning players. I supposed like many they ban the ones with the highest bb/100. We can't know for sure so we can only suppose based on what we know. If you have a different supposition, fine.

Only you say that, not even gg. And i'm not even going to go into why it doesn't make sense.

https://en.ggpoker.com/blog/news-hea...e-against-rta/

In this statement like in others, they use the words rta and cheaters. They also said that they've banned people for bumhunting too. But they've never said that they've banned somebody for playing too close to gto (without rta obv), so why do you state that?
If what you say is true why don't they say it? Isn't that shady to ban players under false pretense?
Either they did that or they just warned and didn't confiscated money from rta users.

Don't even start to compare PS and GG when it comes to this matter. PS ban players after they've reviewed a video of them plaing without RTA and compare them play to previous hand histories. Huge difference.
This shows that you're so biased that you lie, or you are clueless about this subject.

Yeah, I was a little bit rethoric. But my point was if you don't have good winners (and other than luckbox a mtt or so), people won't be attracted to the game.