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11-10-2021 , 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Skillyourself
LMAO
Imagine being so deluded that you think the worlds biggest pokersite is going to rip somebody off for 50k just because they need the money. Absolutely zero self awereness. Many such cases. Sad!
you created a new account for the sole purpose of posting this. imagine being that big of a loser. it's pretty unreal! like the epitome of loserdom.

Last edited by MastaAces; 11-10-2021 at 07:06 AM. Reason: also, stop being jealous of someone winning the lottery
11-10-2021 , 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Skillyourself
LMAO
Imagine being so deluded that you think the worlds biggest pokersite is going to rip somebody off for 50k just because they need the money. Absolutely zero self awereness. Many such cases. Sad!
This is the dumbest statement ever made on 2+2. Thinking that $50K isn't a lot of money to someone when if you pay attention, you will see multi billion dollar casinos nickel and dime their customers at every opportunity and every corporation will squeeze every nickel out of every person that they do business with. Have you not paid attention in your day to day life? Apparently not because you are closeless to how the world works. They have even made movies about this and documentaries and this is actually public record and well known facts.

Another point I have to correct you on is the fact that they are the world's largest poker site. If you look at the article posted on HSDB then you will see that GG was doing things that resulted in accurate numbers. Things such as, bots, counting people more than once, counting people long after they logged off, etc. Here's the link so that you can read it all for yourself.

https://highstakesdb.com/news/high-s...data-explained

You are right though, it's my fault for thinking that a site that would do that then they would probably do some other shady things like close an account for no reason and pocket $50K. What was I thinking ...
11-10-2021 , 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
you created a new account for the sole purpose of posting this. imagine being that big of a loser. it's pretty unreal! like the epitome of loserdom.
I'll do what someone who knows more than me about this kind of thing tells me to do that will increase my odds for me to get the money that is rightfully mine. If you think that's being a loser then call me a loser, I don't care. I'll even call myself a loser if it means that I can have my money. Watch, "I'm a loser because I had won $50K and I would like to use that money in my real life and not play poker with it. I'm a loser!

See I don't care and I'll do it again. If that makes me a loser then I'm a loser. If you would rather lose $50K that is rightfully yours but feel better about yourself by not being a loser and doing things that will help you get that money then go right ahead. I don't have to lie to myself and don't have to let people steal from me in order for me to consider myself not a loser or whatever it is that you consider yourself.
11-10-2021 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by inestimable
I'll do what someone who knows more than me about this kind of thing tells me to do that will increase my odds for me to get the money that is rightfully mine. If you think that's being a loser then call me a loser, I don't care. I'll even call myself a loser if it means that I can have my money. Watch, "I'm a loser because I had won $50K and I would like to use that money in my real life and not play poker with it. I'm a loser!

See I don't care and I'll do it again. If that makes me a loser then I'm a loser. If you would rather lose $50K that is rightfully yours but feel better about yourself by not being a loser and doing things that will help you get that money then go right ahead. I don't have to lie to myself and don't have to let people steal from me in order for me to consider myself not a loser or whatever it is that you consider yourself.
you may want to reread my post. but first, take a few very deep breaths! gl.
11-10-2021 , 08:15 AM
This is his third posting account on this topic, so that is likely why he misinterpreted what you said as directed to him.
11-10-2021 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
This is his third posting account on this topic, so that is likely why he misinterpreted what you said as directed to him.
i figured it may have been a multi-account issue. what a loser...
11-10-2021 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by inestimable
This is the dumbest statement ever made on 2+2. Thinking that $50K isn't a lot of money to someone when if you pay attention, you will see multi billion dollar casinos nickel and dime their customers at every opportunity and every corporation will squeeze every nickel out of every person that they do business with. Have you not paid attention in your day to day life? Apparently not because you are closeless to how the world works. They have even made movies about this and documentaries and this is actually public record and well known facts.

Another point I have to correct you on is the fact that they are the world's largest poker site. If you look at the article posted on HSDB then you will see that GG was doing things that resulted in accurate numbers. Things such as, bots, counting people more than once, counting people long after they logged off, etc. Here's the link so that you can read it all for yourself.

https://highstakesdb.com/news/high-s...data-explained

You are right though, it's my fault for thinking that a site that would do that then they would probably do some other shady things like close an account for no reason and pocket $50K. What was I thinking ...
Yo Rain Man. Picture the following scenario. A world where you make a pokersite account that matches the requirements set by said pokersite and you happen to win 50k jackpot. What now?
11-10-2021 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by inestimable
I don't understand where you are coming up with this 30 days to verify my account. It doesn't say that anywhere and if you look at the e-mails that they sent back to me in regards to verification, nowhere does it mention anything about it being too late and nowhere does it say anything about it being a problem.
Here’s what their email said to me

“ To continue to freely log into GGPoker, please remember that you must complete full account verification within 30 days of your starting date - by 2021/10/21”

So perhaps that’s where I got the 30 day verification from ? But maybe the rules have changed since you opened your account?

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Also don't understand why you are saying that I refused to verify my account. This is not at all true and I sent them my documents

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When I created the account, I didn't send them the documents right away because I don't like to send my personal documents to a gambling website without a good reason to do so.
Yes, you did refuse to verify your account.

All I think you can do OP is send a document proving you changed addrsss, an id with your old address and an id with your new address. And I would hope they pay you, not sure if they can withhold it. But perhaps in their T&C they can withhold it. Either way hope it ends well for you
11-10-2021 , 12:02 PM
As someone who has been recently submitting a lot of documents to a GG can say that if you send them what they ask in a reasonable time pretty sure everything will be fine.

I was required to send a lot of documents, source of wealth, chat agreements with other players, proofs of transactions etc. As soon I send in the required format all that they asked they said all is good. ( I also first sent a screenshot from a bank transaction and they asked .pdf format, and when I sent .pdf it was fine)

What it seems to me that you spent a lot of time asking irrelevant questions at that point, most relevant IMO would be to send required documents without accusing them of stealing funds, or instead you asking them to update your address you could just easily send documents with current address and solve situation if they ask why it is different from your address on acc.

To get more credibility you should post screenshots from all mails between you and gg.

By just posting this you didn't really prove anything, it's just your words that tbh are not well organized and it's hard to follow.
11-11-2021 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by super_dave31
Here’s what their email said to me

“ To continue to freely log into GGPoker, please remember that you must complete full account verification within 30 days of your starting date - by 2021/10/21”

So perhaps that’s where I got the 30 day verification from ? But maybe the rules have changed since you opened your account?






Yes, you did refuse to verify your account.

All I think you can do OP is send a document proving you changed addrsss, an id with your old address and an id with your new address. And I would hope they pay you, not sure if they can withhold it. But perhaps in their T&C they can withhold it. Either way hope it ends well for you
What do you call it when I send them my photo ID and my most recent bank statement?? What part of tried to verify it after. LOOK AT THE EMAILS THAT THEY SENT ME. NOWHERE DOES IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT 30 DAYS AND NOWHERE DOES IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THERE BEING A TIME LIMIT!
11-11-2021 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mosquito!
As someone who has been recently submitting a lot of documents to a GG can say that if you send them what they ask in a reasonable time pretty sure everything will be fine.

I was required to send a lot of documents, source of wealth, chat agreements with other players, proofs of transactions etc. As soon I send in the required format all that they asked they said all is good. ( I also first sent a screenshot from a bank transaction and they asked .pdf format, and when I sent .pdf it was fine)

What it seems to me that you spent a lot of time asking irrelevant questions at that point, most relevant IMO would be to send required documents without accusing them of stealing funds, or instead you asking them to update your address you could just easily send documents with current address and solve situation if they ask why it is different from your address on acc.

To get more credibility you should post screenshots from all mails between you and gg.

By just posting this you didn't really prove anything, it's just your words that tbh are not well organized and it's hard to follow.
Yeah because it makes sense to comparing your account with $25 in it and my account that has $50,000 in it. You really think that it is the same for both? Wake up
11-11-2021 , 01:43 AM
Someone posts a bunch of good advice, and the only thing in there that could have been remotely construed as negative is "There has been plenty of poor communications on both sides." As thanks, he gets this:

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Originally Posted by inestimable
That is made me laugh, thanks for giving me a chuckle as I needed that today. I just want to clarify something, so a player makes a $357 deposit on an online real money poker site and then hits a jackpot and meets all the rules of this jackpot and his poker account is instantly credited with the money. That player then has a gambling problem and should have that money taken from him if he chooses to play with it on that very same poker site? I am sorry but I don't feel the same way as you. I think that it is expected that if someone were to hit that jackpot that the player is going to play with some of it. That is the reason why they have this type of promotion. It isn't because they want to put money in my pocket, they want to put money in theirs. I played higher yes, that doesn't mean I have a gambling problem and that the funds should be stolen. It's hilarious to me that someone thinks that GG is acting correctly because someone is playing higher after winning a jackpot when the site will not allow him to cash out said funds. This is hilarious so thank you
Then when he disputes your characterization of his post, this:

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Originally Posted by inestimable
Ok sorry for having money taken from my account and then asking them about it and then not referencing it and not bringing any attention to it at all in this thread because I don't really care about it. That was a long time ago and I have forgotten about it unless someone brings it up to tell me how rude I was in my "accusation".
Someone defends you against a troll, and you reply with this:

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Originally Posted by inestimable
I'll do what someone who knows more than me about this kind of thing tells me to do that will increase my odds for me to get the money that is rightfully mine. If you think that's being a loser then call me a loser, I don't care. I'll even call myself a loser if it means that I can have my money. Watch, "I'm a loser because I had won $50K and I would like to use that money in my real life and not play poker with it. I'm a loser!

See I don't care and I'll do it again. If that makes me a loser then I'm a loser. If you would rather lose $50K that is rightfully yours but feel better about yourself by not being a loser and doing things that will help you get that money then go right ahead. I don't have to lie to myself and don't have to let people steal from me in order for me to consider myself not a loser or whatever it is that you consider yourself.
The post he was replying to was quoted, right there in his post. He wasn't calling you anything. He called the guy who was trolling you a loser.

You're in such a rush to "defend" yourself against anything and everything, you don't bother reading posts through before doing so. Even the tiniest slight gets multiple paragraphs from you. There are some people trying to help you. And there are some criticizing you. Pretty standard Internet fare, and thus I think it's kind of silly to waste your time replying every single time you think you're wronged - but if you're going to do that, at least try and sort out those who are helping from those who are trolling. It may just benefit you in the long run, keeping people willing to help you.

I wouldn't have bothered mentioning it if it hadn't happened before, more than once. It's hurting your cause, rather than helping it. Just like I'm trying, right now, to help you, even if you may not perceive it that way.

Best of luck to you.
11-11-2021 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Stop posting in a riggie thread. Post your case in NVG as I suggested. I would even add that you should probably create a new account, because anyone that looks up your posting history here and sees your nutjob riggie stuff will immediately assume you are hiding something. Here is the link again to the forum.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-views-gossip/
Fast forward to

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Originally Posted by Monteroy
This is his third posting account on this topic, so that is likely why he misinterpreted what you said as directed to him.
I don't even know what to say. I'm done talking to you. I'm glad that you stopped caring about what I have to say because if this is how you show you are trying to help me then I don't need anymore of your help.

Last edited by inestimable; 11-11-2021 at 02:55 AM.
11-11-2021 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I'm glad you finally got there.

I think the latter part (bolded) is what causes you problems - it's difficult to judge people from a few posts on a forum. So that leads you to do things like rip into a dewd when he offers to help you (great to see you're now taking him up on the offer), or accuse me of all sorts of silliness, and then when I suggest you start a new thread (two weeks ago), you replied that "#It is impossible for me to seperate the cashout from the super using and rigged rng issue because they are on the same site." Great to hear you changed your mind.

Cliffs: Not everyone is out to screw you.
fast forward to your post above which is cherry picking comments I made from different days and then take these out of context statements and try to make it as it though it is my fault. You can keep saying one thing and then doing another. You are like the people in the movies that are in a cult that say "you are free to leave whenever you want" but are blocking the exits. We all know this charachter and that's you. You're a snake in the grass that is supposed to help the players but instead you sell them out and turn their back on them and do nothing but try and hide what these corrupt sites are doing everyday.
11-11-2021 , 03:01 AM
OP trolling imo.
11-11-2021 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by inestimable
fast forward to your post above which is cherry picking comments I made from different days and then take these out of context statements and try to make it as it though it is my fault. You can keep saying one thing and then doing another. You are like the people in the movies that are in a cult that say "you are free to leave whenever you want" but are blocking the exits. We all know this charachter and that's you. You're a snake in the grass that is supposed to help the players but instead you sell them out and turn their back on them and do nothing but try and hide what these corrupt sites are doing everyday.
Do you seriously believe that you are helping your cause by impugning the very people who are trying to help you?

a dewd and Bobo and Monteroy (among others) have been trying to help you (for free), and you trash them like the above?

Is your goal to get everyone to hope that GGPoker keeps your money?
11-11-2021 , 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
OP trolling imo.
I don't think so.

Unfortunately, he's doing everything he can to make sure he never gets his money.
11-11-2021 , 05:28 AM
Fast forward to ***FACE PALM*** .. I am very sorry, you are completely right and I misunderstood what was said.

Very sorry to MastaAces, Bobo, and Monterroy.

Thanks MastaAces for defending me and I'm sorry I thought you were targeting me. I didn't look close enough to see that it wasn't me that you quoted. It was all my fault and I'm sorry.

Sorry for messing up and I deserve all hate and any negativity from that screw up. It's my fault and I am grateful for those that have helped me and sorry if I haven't said that yet. I just get skeptical and think everyone is out to get me. It's probably something I should talk to a doctor about.

Again sorry, it's 100% my fault and I didn't understand what was said and that's my fault.


**Adewd**

Thank you for helping me and I just wanted to let you know that I tried to reply to your message but it says your inbox is full.
11-11-2021 , 10:42 AM
Im still wondering why GG has started to ignore OP
11-11-2021 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by inestimable
Fast forward to ***FACE PALM*** .. I am very sorry, you are completely right and I misunderstood what was said.



Very sorry to MastaAces, Bobo, and Monterroy.



Thanks MastaAces for defending me and I'm sorry I thought you were targeting me. I didn't look close enough to see that it wasn't me that you quoted. It was all my fault and I'm sorry.



Sorry for messing up and I deserve all hate and any negativity from that screw up. It's my fault and I am grateful for those that have helped me and sorry if I haven't said that yet. I just get skeptical and think everyone is out to get me. It's probably something I should talk to a doctor about.



Again sorry, it's 100% my fault and I didn't understand what was said and that's my fault.





**Adewd**



Thank you for helping me and I just wanted to let you know that I tried to reply to your message but it says your inbox is full.
Yeah sorry about that. Room now.
11-11-2021 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by inestimable
Yeah because it makes sense to comparing your account with $25 in it and my account that has $50,000 in it. You really think that it is the same for both? Wake up
Well after this reply pretty sure you're hiding something.
I wonder how did you come to the conclusion I have 25$ on acc, and needed to send a source of wealth, bank statements, etc for the whole 25$? Prolly same way you figured out they stole 300$ from your acc?
Why don't you post screenshots from whole mail conversations between you and GG and actually prove something instead of just posting they stole money from you?

You didn't support any of your claims with some evidence.
11-12-2021 , 05:13 PM
Oh and also, stop saying you have 50k in your account when that is not true, just clickbait. That is the amount you won but then you decided to donk away quite a bit, remember?
11-12-2021 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mosquito!
Well after this reply pretty sure you're hiding something.
I wonder how did you come to the conclusion I have 25$ on acc, and needed to send a source of wealth, bank statements, etc for the whole 25$? Prolly same way you figured out they stole 300$ from your acc?
Why don't you post screenshots from whole mail conversations between you and GG and actually prove something instead of just posting they stole money from you?

You didn't support any of your claims with some evidence.
Yes, he did post screenshots and mail conversations in the rigged thread.

I have much respect for OP!

OP against twenty 2+2 trolls! Keep going and you only will get stronger!

Brain training at 2+2.
11-12-2021 , 11:37 PM
@Bobo…thanks for chiming in. Pretty well known I dont let go easily but in his case I have moved on. OP is a list cause and is always getting in his own way. I had replied but probably good for me a mod deleted my reply.
11-13-2021 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PartyLove
Yes, he did post screenshots and mail conversations in the rigged thread.



I have much respect for OP!



OP against twenty 2+2 trolls! Keep going and you only will get stronger!



Brain training at 2+2.
You would have respect for the rambling gibberish.

OP's goal should be getting his account clear so he can get his money. These kinds of things never enter the riggie's (empty) head. If GG monitored this forum, they don't at all, then OP would greatly hurt his case. You keep cheering rambling nonsense. Then reply with more nonsense.

OP did send me info to try and get answers for him so hopefully I can.

      
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