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10-08-2022 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rivercityransom
What are you talking about? God I hate all these *not thought out* comments.

Explain to me how exactly it doesn't matter what he says now? Of course it matters. Even if he did step out of line and created grounds for a possible defamation suit with his twitter post - let's say that's true I don't even know if it is but let's imagine it is for a second.

What is it now everything he says from there on out non material? He doesn't have to be careful with his words anymore because he already made 1 mistake (in that scenario)?

Now let's look at reality.

It does matter what he says because without proper language he can leave himself open to defamation suits so subsequently he still has to be careful with his language because additional harmful language would go against him in said hypothetical lawsuit.

So yea, he does have to be careful still and no it does matter what he says now. If there was damage more damage can always be done.
He should still be careful but it won’t save him from his previous Twitter posts. He’s still getting sued and losing

What’re the defamation suits? Who else is suing him for defamation?
10-08-2022 , 01:35 AM
I went from 80% cheating to now 100%.

Gman likely saved people lots of money as I bet Rabia/Jacob/Bryan were just getting started.

Endless love to Gman for donating 135k to Big Brother/Big Sister.

I'm having trouble understanding Beanz perceived role in this. He provided the $ and masterminded it?
10-08-2022 , 01:35 AM
The top three calls for poker mediation, Tom Dwan, Haraolobob and Deeb, all believe she was cheating.

Imagine fading the professional analysis of those three.
10-08-2022 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gman06
3:16:17:
RIP: “Why am I upset”
Robbi: “It’ll be fine.”
Jacob: “Why would that make me so upset?”
Robbi: “Oh.. oh.. now they know, now they know”

(This is where it’s first revealed on stream that Jacob and Robbi have at minimum a financial arrangement. RIP can’t hide his frustration in his body language here. They are again accidentally having a public conversation. “Now they know” could also potentially mean they have been discovered as cheaters.)
I don't have a dog in this fight, but if you watch the stream, she is talking to the dealer when she says that last line. She folded her hand, and the dealer said "it's free to check", and gave her her cards back, and she said "oh... oh... well now they know"... meaning that the rest of the table now knows she has a bad hand.

Also, in regards to the rest of the transcription for this exchange, I'm not sure that it's an accurate representation. For instance, the audio is a little unclear, but to me it sounds like she is clearly saying "totally fine", instead of "it'll be fine".

Given the context of the full discussion taking place at this time, and a closer listen, I think this is a more accurate description of what happened:

3:16:04

Robbi: "... like the (thing/deal/agreement?) we had was that he was going to come back down and take a b... chill... take a breather... he lost a big pot, he got it back... take a breather and just chill out. But he didn't, because... then..."


(I'm assuming she motioned towards RIP at this point, implying that RIP's involvement stopped G from returning, which made RIP get flustered/defensive about his actions.)

RIP: "da uh wh... why am I upset?" (To me, this was RIP justifying his involvement, after Robbi seemingly criticized it.)

Robbi: "Totally fine..." (To me, this is Robbi letting him know that she didn't intend to criticize him.)


Then the dealer hands her cards back, and the dealer/Robbi say what I wrote in the beginning of this post.

Again, I have no dog in this fight, just clarifying the "now they know" line, and giving my interpretation of the full exchange... I think the "why am I upset?" line was a rhetorical question, meant to justify his actions.
10-08-2022 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BDub1
You should also check into Nick Vertucci. He has multiple claims, complaints and suits against him, especially with BBB for his real estate scam seminars. If you’re looking for a leader, I’d start with him. He’s scum
Garrett too chickenshit and self interested to acknowledge that. Robbi and Rip and Beanz and Nikki Airball are much softer targets..
10-08-2022 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Manner Please
That was not all it took. There were many, many pieces, but I had seen many of them before Garretts post. I was trying to highlight what I found new in Garretts post. I'm sorry that the way I wrote it left you a bit confused.
All good. Yea I was misunderstanding I guess.
10-08-2022 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Couchsock
What kind of tangible evidence do you possibly think we can extract from her play on stream? Only HCL can find tangible proof at this point. We don’t have the amount of hours that postle played nor the ‘crotch theory optimal’ red flag which was easy to spot in hindsight
But her play on stream is being used as “evidence” including the J8 hand. Do you find that to be a suspicious hand? If so, why?
10-08-2022 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Nothing but circumstantial evidence.
And hearsay.
10-08-2022 , 01:40 AM
Beanz finna drive a lionel up yo azz
10-08-2022 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
But her play on stream is being used as “evidence” including the J8 hand. Do you find that to be a suspicious hand? If so, why?
Extremely suspicious hand. It’s circumstantial evidence tho. The only tangible evidence you elude to can be found by a through HCL investigation.

I was pretty pissed watching that stream after the hand. I could not believe they weren’t shutting the game down and checking everyone at the table for anything suspicious. I’m guessing it was to avoid legal issues but it’s starting to become possible IMO that several people from the inside could be in on the fix. Hence the no pressing of the issue at the necessary time

For instance in the UB cheating scandal it started out with some suspicious hands. But that wasn’t enough. The true hammer of guilt happened when inside info from an employee revealed one of the suspected cheating names had changed their username to another one of the suspected cheating names. And later that the physical address of one of the cheating accounts belonged to Russ Hamilton. All of this required inside help
10-08-2022 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet
Joey has 10k viewers atm. lol. Tom Dwan is literally rambling non stop. No idea what he is even talking about.
All of these smears are transparent. Dwan is being clear and making perfect sense, even if you disagree with him you can certainly understand him.
10-08-2022 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ReliableSource
@gman06 @DougPolkvideos @JoeyIngram

I feel like Bryan is the fall guy. It’s rather convenient they found and outed the bad guy so fast.

Has Nick Vertucci shown any of you the footage of Bryan stealing 15k from the table? If so, why hasn’t he?

The office cabinet seems like another convenient revelation.
Looks like a fall guy to me as well.

Also how you gonna let the game run with all these security problems. Vertucci had to of known about all the scamming.
10-08-2022 , 01:46 AM
I can admit I was less than 50% cheating before the chip palming info. However, my initial reaction after reading Garetts post is that the strategy involved was that ONLY GARRETT was to be cheated. No cheating on others. See NIK AIRBALLS animosity towards Garrett on Twitter. And this is probably an easy way to stave off cheating accusations as everyone has learned from Postlegate (always making the right play is a dead giveaway). Also, in the hand where she calls off when GMan has a boat, she knows she is behind but thinks she can win a big pot if she hits her flush. This is consistent with the….does not know the hole cards but receives info if she is ahead or behind….I am in the way over 50% now camp.

I also think that Garrett being 100% absolutely convinced she was cheating immediately after it happened is not a good look for Garrett. The only way you know 100% sure someone is cheating is if you yourself are cheating. Reference a scene from the movie The Sting where they setup a true cold deck. I am not calling Garrett a cheater, but I am just saying some people might see it that way (I am referencing some posts I saw on this thread).

I also think Garrett handled this somewhat poorly. He should have escrowed the funds. He should have not come out and said she is 100% absolutely cheating. But I think this happened so fast he might be given some leeway on that.

Has anyone gone through the footage and also found that Garrett was the only one being cheated? Just a thought.
10-08-2022 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Couchsock
Extremely suspicious hand. It’s circumstantial evidence tho. The only tangible evidence you elude to can be found by a through HCL investigation.

I was pretty pissed watching that stream after the hand. I could not believe they weren’t shutting the game down and checking everyone at the table for anything suspicious. I’m guessing it was to avoid legal issues but it’s starting to become possible IMO that several people from the inside could be in on the fix. Hence the no pressing of the issue at the necessary time

For instance in the UB cheating scandal it started out with some suspicious hands. But that wasn’t enough. The true hammer of guilt happened when inside info from an employee revealed one of the suspected cheating names had changed their username to another one of the suspected cheating names. And later that the physical address of one of the cheating accounts belonged to Russ Hamilton. All of this required inside help
Oh please tell me why it was suspicious, she was behind every step of way and called 10K drawing dead on turn
10-08-2022 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ktr
All of these smears are transparent. Dwan is being clear and making perfect sense, even if you disagree with him you can certainly understand him.
I am 99% sure cheating went on, I don't know enough about this guy in particular to make a judgement either way but they really aren't doing a great job of asking this guy pointed questions.
Seems like a wasted opportunity.
10-08-2022 , 01:50 AM
Feel at this point, gman should delete the stuff about Beanz. It sounds some of it is wrong and most of it is just random speculation based on the fact Beanz helped her get on the show and initially defended her.
10-08-2022 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Manner Please
I'm not saying someone could convince a judge and jury, I'm saying Garrett has convinced my skeptical self.

I was open to believing the "she's a donkey/brain fart" theory because I've seen plenty of dumb donkey calls playing poker. And if she had shut her mouth and said , "you know, I just kinda had a feeling" I may have believed her. But to establish yourself as a compulsive liar and manipulator the same night that an extremely strange hand went down and an insider bizarrely steals chips from your stack, the circumstancial evidence is too much.

If you're trying to say we can't prove to an extent she'll be prosecuted, I'm not a lawyer, seems like Postle walked free and I'm 99.9999% sure he cheated as well. But I think until recently most good-faith people with poker expertise could have good-faith disagreements over what went down, but we're quickly walking into a territory where poker experts can no have good-faith disagreement over this, there will be agreement that she cheated.

You failed to answer my question at all and just responded with dribble. You are not thinking rationally and have convinced yourself she is cheating just because she said some suspicious things by changing her story. That is not genuine evidence of cheating at all. People change their stories for all sorts of silly reasons that have nothing to do with cheating.
10-08-2022 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Oh please tell me why it was suspicious, she was behind every step of way and called 10K drawing dead on turn
Edit: my bad didn’t realize you weren’t talking about the J4 hand

In the J8 vs Q4 hand you’re right, that hand shows no signs of cheating. But if all you had to do was not use the cheating tool every hand and you’d get away with it, that’d be a small price to pay. Doesn’t mean you can discount the possibility of someone cheating

Last edited by Couchsock; 10-08-2022 at 02:00 AM.
10-08-2022 , 01:54 AM
o.o
10-08-2022 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Oh please tell me why it was suspicious, she was behind every step of way and called 10K drawing dead on turn
Because that proves they’re very sophisticated at cheating.

Which might not make sense given the hand that started it all, but that’s what I’m hearing.
10-08-2022 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Couchsock
Wow. You are incapable of being saved. God bless your naive heart
So you have nothing, got it

Btw Bart Hanson analyzed that hand and found nothing suspicious, in fact it lends credence that the J4 hand was legit

Anyone else wish to say why the J8 hand was suspicious?
10-08-2022 , 01:57 AM
I hate to think how many times I've been cheated by basic signalling in my years of poker.

Good for you Gman.

Glad you trusted your gut and figured out the truth.
10-08-2022 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Couchsock
What kind of tangible evidence do you possibly think we can extract from her play on stream? Only HCL can find tangible proof at this point. We don’t have the amount of hours that postle played nor the ‘crotch theory optimal’ red flag which was easy to spot in hindsight
Multiple Postle hands would be convincing evidence, so would evidence of some communication device. The fact there is only 1 hand is basically a smoking gun for her innocence which the cheat crew keep ignoring. I keep mentioning it because its a [B]huge[B]deal. Its not plausible they only cheated once in 600 hands. We don't need the same amount of postle hands, he was cheating consistently.
10-08-2022 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyA
Feel at this point, gman should delete the stuff about Beanz. It sounds some of it is wrong and most of it is just random speculation based on the fact Beanz helped her get on the show and initially defended her.
He pretty resoundingly debunked the whole robbing a casino angle. But that Robbi staked him and he was how she got on the show, and DGAF was the contact between them, seems relevant to the situation. It is a little strange that he didn’t know her but she loaned him 20k, and he isn’t really be forthcoming about these particular details.

Also, he initially defended her, and said she shouldn’t have given the money back. Anyone that is an experienced poker player that feels this way is suspect to me because their judgement is very unlikely to be this bad.

I’m behind on the stream right now but he’s still saying Garrett should give the money back. Anyone involved in this that is saying that is suspicious to me.
10-08-2022 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by auralex14
Because that proves they’re very sophisticated at cheating.

Which might not make sense given the hand that started it all, but that’s what I’m hearing.
What? So playing hands exactly as if they weren’t getting knowledge is proof that they were getting knowledge? Lol

      
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