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10-08-2022 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mzp1
Garrets was 100% at the time. Now he thinks its "very likely".
He’s just being more careful with his words. But the difference between this statement and his initial one is why he might have to deal with a defamation lawsuit if nothing more comes out.
10-08-2022 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mzp1
This is a super long post and I am getting lost in all the details

What exactly is the theory here? Beanz is the leader who recruited the whole operation? Is there any real new evidence here or just GMAN rambling?

Whats the TLDR? Any major new evidence?
It seems like the only real evidence is that a cabinet MAY have been moved which could have allowed them to signal one another. Everything else isn’t relevant to what happened that day although it certainly sounds like there’s a scam , I still don’t see any definitive proof.
10-08-2022 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
It seems like the only real evidence is that a cabinet MAY have been moved which could have allowed them to signal one another. Everything else isn’t relevant to what happened that day although it certainly sounds like there’s a scam , I still don’t see any definitive proof.
We need to know more about the setup in the back there. Were there more cameras? Did the cabinet completely, or partially obscure the camera? I dont think Doug was clear on that.
10-08-2022 , 01:13 AM
There’s nothing fishy at all about the J8 hand, she was behind every step of the way and called 10K drawing dead on the turn. After the hand she mouthed J8 to tell her friend what she had and what she at least postured to make a hero call with. That happens every day

What am I missing?
10-08-2022 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PowerRanger
This is a very serious allegation; I don't believe someone of Garrett's experience and status would make it without being 100% certain. I didn't think much about the hand when I watched it in a vacuum, but combined with all of the other information, there is obviously something worth investigating here.
Very serious, but so far Garrett has no evidence Robbi knew her J/4 hand would win. He'd need to find some proof she was ''tipped off'' by a device.
10-08-2022 , 01:18 AM
I'm someone who went from 90/10 "nocheat" to 99/1 "cheat" over last few days.

The biggest thing that's been glossed over that Garrett's called attention to was , I didn't realize she went on stream _after_ she gave the money back but _before_ she tweeted that she was cornered, calmly and cooly saying that she gave the money back to smooth things over and be nice. This does not seem like someone who got intimidated and scared, seems like she changed her story multiple times over the course of a single night.

GG Garrett.
10-08-2022 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
There’s nothing fishy at all about the J8 hand, she was behind every step of the way and called 10K drawing dead on the turn. After the hand she mouthed J8 to tell her friend what she had and what she at least postured to make a hero call with. That happens every day

What am I missing?
Nothing. The fact they are referencing these hands demonstrates now desperate they are for genuine cheating evidence. Apart from J4 they have nothing. Apparently cheats just cheat 1 hand.

OR Robbi was so savvy with her cheating she was able to cover it up masterfully, which of course is contradicted by the J4 hand. They have no real evidence other than smoke and mirrors. Garrents report just solidified how little evidence he has.
10-08-2022 , 01:20 AM
Why were they allowed to play if all this information is out there and available
Why wasn’t a security sweep performed to detect any cheating devices after you were sure they cheated

This just added more circumstantial evidence that does connect some dots and paint a bigger picture but there is nothing concrete. Why didn’t you use your connections to catch them red handed on the spot? Was that even attempted?
10-08-2022 , 01:20 AM
Nick Vertucci needs to be mentioned somewhere in the OP.

I find it weird that right when this incident happenned Garret said hes 100000% sure the HCL staff was not in on it because "they are his friends"
yet this nick v guy has quite the shady record. Bryan is the perfect fall guy
10-08-2022 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gman06
Garrett Adelstein Report on Likely Cheating on Hustler Casino Live

Robbi, “I’m okay with it. I don’t give a ****, I want everyone to chill out, it's not that serious if it doesn’t bother me, it is what it is. I don’t feel like I should have won that hand. I should not have won that hand.”
I imagine she can justify this to her accomplices because the 4h was supposed to be the 6c and her team ****ed up.

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10-08-2022 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mike tommo
Very serious, but so far Garrett has no evidence Robbi knew her J/4 hand would win. He'd need to find some proof she was ''tipped off'' by a device.
Exactly right, they committed an ethics foul by not disclosing a backing, and possibly there were even colluding. But there needs to be proof regarding that J4 hand that she was tipped off. That could come at a later time, but a moved file cabinet doesn’t prove it

And regarding collusion, I’ve had a few cases over the years where a really friendly guy might kick me under the table or something letting me know to get out and save my money.
10-08-2022 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Manner Please
I'm someone who went from 90/10 "nocheat" to 99/1 "cheat" over last few days.

The biggest thing that's been glossed over that Garrett's called attention to was , I didn't realize she went on stream _after_ she gave the money back but _before_ she tweeted that she was cornered, calmly and cooly saying that she gave the money back to smooth things over and be nice. This does not seem like someone who got intimidated and scared, seems like she changed her story multiple times over the course of a single night.

GG Garrett.

What's her story changing got to do with real tangible evidence she cheated in the j4 hand?
10-08-2022 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by auralex14
He’s just being more careful with his words. But the difference between this statement and his initial one is why he might have to deal with a defamation lawsuit if nothing more comes out.
He can’t take back his initial Twitter post so it doesn’t matter what he says now, the damage is done.
10-08-2022 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet
Nothing. The fact they are referencing these hands demonstrates now desperate they are for genuine cheating evidence. Apart from J4 they have nothing. Apparently cheats just cheat 1 hand.

OR Robbi was so savvy with her cheating she was able to cover it up masterfully, which of course is contradicted by the J4 hand. They have no real evidence other than smoke and mirrors. Garrents report just solidified how little evidence he has.
If anything the J8 hand provides some context in that she thought he was full of it and was looking to play sheriff later
10-08-2022 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DreamAgain
Man I got no idea if she was cheating or not but..

"Based on the evidence presented below"

You seem like a smart guy but you keep using the word evidence like you don't understand the definition. Saying some guy told you that some other guy moved some cabinets of which the purpose was to see hole cards isn't evidence.


Also **** like a known degen gambler in debt to multiple people posting a tweet like "how do u cheat in chess asking for a friend lol" or whatever is hardly a "troublesome" development.
You can’t be serious. A convicted felonious thief is found taking 15k of chips from robbi. Robbi follows the guy on twitter (maybe Instagram too?). Robbi clearly has her phone number saved as his name. Yet robbi also claims she ‘doesn’t even know the guys name’ on joeys podcast. This said thief is now asking how to cheat at something besides poker just a few weeks before this incident. His motives for that question could be various. It’s exactly what I’d call a troublesome development, for her that is.

If she’s not guilty she’s running like top .01% in circumstantial **** happening to her that doesn’t look legit

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10-08-2022 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Manner Please
I'm someone who went from 90/10 "nocheat" to 99/1 "cheat" over last few days.

The biggest thing that's been glossed over that Garrett's called attention to was , I didn't realize she went on stream _after_ she gave the money back but _before_ she tweeted that she was cornered, calmly and cooly saying that she gave the money back to smooth things over and be nice. This does not seem like someone who got intimidated and scared, seems like she changed her story multiple times over the course of a single night.

GG Garrett.
If that’s all it took for you to go from 90/10 no cheat to 99/1 cheat then I hope you never serve on a jury.
10-08-2022 , 01:28 AM
Here for it

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10-08-2022 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet
What's her story changing got to do with real tangible evidence she cheated in the j4 hand?
I'm not saying someone could convince a judge and jury, I'm saying Garrett has convinced my skeptical self.

I was open to believing the "she's a donkey/brain fart" theory because I've seen plenty of dumb donkey calls playing poker. And if she had shut her mouth and said , "you know, I just kinda had a feeling" I may have believed her. But to establish yourself as a compulsive liar and manipulator the same night that an extremely strange hand went down and an insider bizarrely steals chips from your stack, the circumstancial evidence is too much.

If you're trying to say we can't prove to an extent she'll be prosecuted, I'm not a lawyer, seems like Postle walked free and I'm 99.9999% sure he cheated as well. But I think until recently most good-faith people with poker expertise could have good-faith disagreements over what went down, but we're quickly walking into a territory where poker experts can no have good-faith disagreement over this, there will be agreement that she cheated.
10-08-2022 , 01:31 AM
I still don't understand her giving the money back. Especially if they're much less wealthy then they claim to be.
10-08-2022 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
He can’t take back his initial Twitter post so it doesn’t matter what he says now, the damage is done.
What are you talking about? God I hate all these *not thought out* comments.

Explain to me how exactly it doesn't matter what he says now? Of course it matters. Even if he did step out of line and created grounds for a possible defamation suit with his twitter post - let's say that's true I don't even know if it is but let's imagine it is for a second.

What is it now everything he says from there on out non material? He doesn't have to be careful with his words anymore because he already made 1 mistake (in that scenario)?

Now let's look at reality.

It does matter what he says because without proper language he can leave himself open to defamation suits so subsequently he still has to be careful with his language because additional harmful language would go against him in said hypothetical lawsuit.

So yea, he does have to be careful still and no it does matter what he says now. If there was damage more damage can always be done.
10-08-2022 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by auralex14
If that’s all it took for you to go from 90/10 no cheat to 99/1 cheat then I hope you never serve on a jury.
That was not all it took. There were many, many pieces, but I had seen many of them before Garretts post. I was trying to highlight what I found new in Garretts post. I'm sorry that the way I wrote it left you a bit confused.
10-08-2022 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet
What's her story changing got to do with real tangible evidence she cheated in the j4 hand?
What kind of tangible evidence do you possibly think we can extract from her play on stream? Only HCL can find tangible proof at this point. We don’t have the amount of hours that postle played nor the ‘crotch theory optimal’ red flag which was easy to spot in hindsight
10-08-2022 , 01:32 AM
Joey has 10k viewers atm. lol. Tom Dwan is literally rambling non stop. No idea what he is even talking about.
10-08-2022 , 01:34 AM
You should also check into Nick Vertucci. He has multiple claims, complaints and suits against him, especially with BBB for his real estate scam seminars. If you’re looking for a leader, I’d start with him. He’s scum
10-08-2022 , 01:34 AM
jus crazy, def sways a lot of public perception within the week or last 24 hrs

      
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